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To: Salvation

Thanks for the ping.

For communism to prevail, atheism must succeed. We cannot have 2 masters. Attacking marriage is the fastest, most efficient way to do this. One cannot help but marvel at the representation of Gods love and existence when contemplating marriage and family. The two becoming one, the one becoming 3. Participation in the miracle of life. Life is what they despise, they embrace death and hatred.

We have come far down that slippery slope. Divorce, contraception, abortion, pornography, living together, homosexual and pedophilia behaviors, the list is endless. The governmental socialistic policies are only the result of the complete and total demise of the family in this country,not the cause of it. It is a symptom of the disease we suffer from. We now care for the broken families left in the aftermath of the successful destruction of the family unit.

There is no other way to repair all of this until we strengthen once again, the family through promotion of the sacrament of marriage, the sanctity of life, and the value of and necessity of the family unit to society.

As to Mary, she too needed a savior, and she had one, Jesus. If God can do anything and is everything, then He is the eternal present. There is no past or future to Him who created time. To limit God to our own understanding is to minimize Him. God allowed Mary’s yes to apply to her soul before she was born to allow her to be the holy ark in which to carry the new covenant, Jesus Christ. Since he could not dwell in sin, he who knew no sin, she was preserved FROM sin, which is why she spoke of her savior. God being in the eternal present already had her yes before all time began. To know that Mary was preserved from sin, being the one human in all time to already be in a state that God had originally intended for us but was broken through Adam, does not put her in the Godhead, but a hopeful representation of our final condition. There is nothing wrong with asking for Mary’s intercession, as the prayer of a righteous man availeth much. Her one command in scripture was to “do whatever He tells you”, always deflecting all to her Son. She was given to the apostle whom Jesus loved at the foot of the cross, as any faithful Jewish son would have concerns for his mother. If we are all truly brothers and sisters of Christ, in a REAL true and absolute sense, wouldn’t that make her really and truly our mother as well? I know you see all these things, but I felt the need to speak them on this thread.

God bless you!


20 posted on 06/11/2009 9:31:43 PM PDT by wombtotomb
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To: wombtotomb

“God allowed Mary’s yes to apply to her soul before she was born to allow her to be the holy ark in which to carry the new covenant, Jesus Christ. Since he could not dwell in sin, he who knew no sin, she was preserved FROM sin, which is why she spoke of her savior.”

Yes, because to say otherwise would have our Blessed Mother tainted with the devil while carrying the Son of God thus tainting Our Lord and Savior.


22 posted on 06/11/2009 10:54:25 PM PDT by bronxville
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To: wombtotomb
Not so! god by passed the seed of Fallen man. It is man that the inherited sin or imperfections of man after the fall are passed on by. God removed Man from the equation and the Holy spirit super naturally cause Mary to conceive. That argument is baseless -then how could Mary be sin less with out an sinless mother and so on and so on...think it out my friend... ALMIGHTY GOD BY-PASSED THE SEED OF FALLEN MAN. THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE. tHAT IS HOW JESUS(GOD THE SON) WAS GIVEN A PERFECT SINLESS BODY TO DWELL IN.

Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: hEBREWS 10:5

35 posted on 06/15/2009 10:12:36 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman (The TRUTH will set you Free..... Republic)
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