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To: Houghton M.

The bishop could do a hecj of a lot to make Jenkins’s life unpleasant. Jenkins could not say mass in any church in the diocese, nor take part in any other diocesean function. He could cut off all personal contact with the man. He could keep public masses from being celebrated on campuses. He could prohibt weddings from taking place in the Chapel. THAT would really sting the students because they love this showy stuff.


4 posted on 05/22/2009 6:45:33 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: RobbyS
The bishop could do a hecj of a lot to make Jenkins’s life unpleasant. Jenkins could not say mass in any church in the diocese, nor take part in any other diocesean function. He could cut off all personal contact with the man. He could keep public masses from being celebrated on campuses. He could prohibt weddings from taking place in the Chapel. THAT would really sting the students because they love this showy stuff.

He could do a whole lot more than that:

Can. 683 §1. At the time of pastoral visitation and also in the case of necessity, the diocesan bishop, either personally or through another, can visit churches and oratories which the Christian faithful habitually attend, schools, and other works of religion or charity, whether spiritual or temporal, entrusted to religious, but not schools which are open exclusively to the institute’s own students.

§2. If by chance he has discovered abuses and the religious superior has been warned in vain, he himself can make provision on his own authority.

i.e. (if I'm reading this right), he could make a pastoral visitation and, if he found abuses (like what happened last Sunday), he could request that the superior of that order do something...or he could take matters into his own hands.

Can. 678 §1. Religious are subject to the power of bishops whom they are bound to follow with devoted submission and reverence in those matters which regard the care of souls, the public exercise of divine worship, and other works of the apostolate.

§2. In exercising an external apostolate, religious are also subject to their proper superiors and must remain faithful to the discipline of the institute. The bishops themselves are not to fail to urge this obligation if the case warrants it.

§3. In organizing the works of the apostolate of religious, diocesan bishops and religious superiors must proceed through mutual consultation.

Can. 679 When a most grave cause demands it, a diocesan bishop can prohibit a member of a religious institute from residing in the diocese if his or her major superior, after having been informed, has neglected to make provision; moreover, the matter is to be referred immediately to the Holy See.

Can 678 says it is the bishop's responsibility.

Can 679 says that the bishop could order Jenkins to get out of the diocese, if nothing else works.

So there's a whole lot that could be done...

5 posted on 05/22/2009 7:34:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: RobbyS

You make the same mistake a lot of people are making. This is not about Jenkins. It is about the entire university and the university’s constituency.

How many times do I have to repeat on these threads. University presidents serve at the pleasure of the boards of trustees. If they do not have the backing of their boards and their faculty, they can do nothing. If they lose the confidence of their boards and faculty and big-time donors, they get canned and replaced.

To target Jenkins in his functions as a priest in order to get at the board of trustees and the big-time donors is STOOOOOPPPPIIIDD. It would turn him into a victim and obscure the real issue: American Catholic culture, esp. at the affluent levels, has become pro-abort and pro-contraception.

Notre Dame and the other big Catholic schools long ago figured out that not enough Catholics with enough money give a damn about unborn babies and about contraception to affect things. Those who do care long since shifted to supporting the start-up Catholic schools.

Look, these universities are run as businesses. They do their market research. They know what “sells” to potential students and to big-time donors. And a “moderate” pro-abort, pro-contraception, pro-Democrat line sells.

If conservative Catholics want to turn this around, they need to get smart and learn about how universities are run, what motivates boards of trustees, faculty, administrators, where the real money is found and how these businesses market and sell their “product” (which product consists of the academic expertise of their faculty, including the amount of research money the prestige of their faculty pulls in).

I am sick and tired of people yelling at D’Arcy and calling for an interdict on the campus or Notre Dame or for throwing the CSCs out of the diocese. That would accomplish ZERO, indeed, would set your cause back big-time.

Fight smart. Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.


8 posted on 05/23/2009 3:48:33 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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