If you did you didn't process it because I used Scripture itself to prove that the Tradition Moses received on Mt. Sinai is absolutely essential and that the Torah can't be understood without it.
I pointed out that the Torah commands that certain sacrifices be "heaved" and some to be "waved" (and it even describes situations, such as the installation ceremony for Aaron and his sons as priests where they are described as having been "waved") yet it nowhere explains how this "heaving" or "waving" is to be done. No where. Is this what you call not arguing from Scripture? Or are you simply too intellectually dishonest to deal with this?
Do you honestly believe that you could take a Thomas Nelson published King James Version and build the Tabernacle as described in the Book of Exodus based merely on the text itself with no oral instructions from G-d via Moses?
I also pointed out something else which absolutely shoots your position to pieces. The authoritative text of the Torah is not a printed book, not even in the original Hebrew. It is found only in the kosher Torah Scroll. And every single kosher Torah Scroll in the world is hand-written by a scribe according to a strict set of rules. If these rules did not exist there would be no kosher Torah Scroll and therefore nothing to translate into English or any other language. The Torah which you think excludes Oral Tradition actually would not have survived beyond the first generation if G-d had not given Moses a set of instructions for writing Torah Scrolls that details every detail--the sizes and shapes of the letters, the crowns attached to the letters, the spaces between the letters, etc. Scribes are called soferim (counters) because they have counted every letter in the Torah. No text in history is as authoritatively and authentically preserves as is the Torah, thanks to these Divine instructions for copying and writing it down. As I observed earlier, Protestants do not remember a world without a printing press (the printing press basically created Protestantism). They tend to assume that the Biblical text magically pops out of a printing press. It does not. Printed Bibles depend on the original hand-written Bibles, and the rules for writing those Bibles is not recorded anywhere in the Bible itself. Yet that these rules exist and that the writing of Torah Scrolls is utterly dependent on them, and could not take place without them, is self-evident.
Unfortunately, I doubt you will process this information. You are still arguing with the Pope. I'm not the Pope.
I simply can't debate tradition. It's pointless. I don't think tradition is holy or inspired whether it's Jewish or Catholic. Tradition can be good, but when there's scant evidence to support it scripturally it's worthless.
Wow. Good thing Moses found a printing press on Mt. Sinai popping out King James Versions, complete with the book of Ephesians and everything.
You evangelicals use the same logic to prove your religion that the mormons use to prove theirs.
This was a point that the messiah made clear.
When debating with someone who rejects J*sus as the messiah, you can't prove your point by simply claiming that J*sus was the messiah. That's simple logic. I hope you don't criticize mormons for proving Joseph Smith was a prophet by claiming he was.
You didn't use scripture to prove this:
I pointed out that the Torah commands that certain sacrifices be "heaved" and some to be "waved" (and it even describes situations, such as the installation ceremony for Aaron and his sons as priests where they are described as having been "waved") yet it nowhere explains how this "heaving" or "waving" is to be done. No where. Is this what you call not arguing from Scripture? Or are you simply too intellectually dishonest to deal with this?
And where does God say that it matters exactly how it was waved or heaved? Where is the penalty God imposed for not "waving" or "heaving" the offering the correct way? There's nothing wrong with establishing a tradition to standardize these things, but holding that tradition to be the same as the word of God is elevating the tradition of men to commandments of God.
Do you honestly believe that you could take a Thomas Nelson published King James Version and build the Tabernacle as described in the Book of Exodus based merely on the text itself with no oral instructions from G-d via Moses?
Yes, if God wanted me to do this he would give me the understanding through his spirit:
Exd 35:31 KJV - And he hath filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship;
Exd 35:32 KJV - And to devise curious works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,
Exd 35:33 KJV - And in the cutting of stones, to set [them], and in carving of wood, to make any manner of cunning work.
Exd 35:34 KJV - And he hath put in his heart that he may teach, [both] he, and Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan.
Exd 35:35 KJV - Them hath he filled with wisdom of heart, to work all manner of work, of the engraver, and of the cunning workman, and of the embroiderer, in blue, and in purple, in scarlet, and in fine linen, and of the weaver, [even] of them that do any work, and of those that devise cunning work.
Exd 31:3 KJV - And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship,
Exd 31:4 KJV - To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass,
Exd 31:5 KJV - And in cutting of stones, to set [them], and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship.
Exd 31:6 KJV - And I, behold, I have given with him Aholiab, the son of Ahisamach, of the tribe of Dan: and in the hearts of all that are wise hearted I have put wisdom, that they may make all that I have commanded thee;
I wouldn't need any type of tradition, just as he did with Bezaleel and Aholiab.
If these rules did not exist there would be no kosher Torah Scroll and therefore nothing to translate into English or any other language. The Torah which you think excludes Oral Tradition actually would not have survived beyond the first generation if G-d had not given Moses a set of instructions for writing Torah Scrolls that details every detail--the sizes and shapes of the letters, the crowns attached to the letters, the spaces between the letters, etc. Scribes are called soferim (counters) because they have counted every letter in the Torah.
That's great, but irrelevant to the question. As I've said not all tradition is bad. Paul even affirms their role in preserving scripture:
Rom 3:1 KJV - What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit [is there] of circumcision?
Rom 3:2 KJV - Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.
This was a point that the messiah made clear.
When debating with someone who rejects J*sus as the messiah, you can't prove your point by simply claiming that J*sus was the messiah. That's simple logic. I hope you don't criticize mormons for proving Joseph Smith was a prophet by claiming he was.
When you're debating with someone who rejects the notion that all tradition is holy and inspired you can't prove your point by simply claiming that "Israel's mission is to compel the nations of the world to observe the Seven Noachide Laws. And those laws forbid complete Shabbat observance, as Jews practice it, to non-Jews.". That's simple logic. I hope you don't criticize Catholics for proving that Sunday is the Lords day by claiming their tradition proves it.