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To: DouglasKC
So what do you mean by "authentic?" Can an authentic tradition be wrong?

The Authentic Tradition is from G-d on Mt. Sinai. The traditions of other religions with other sources are the inventions of human beings.

Can an authentic tradition be wrong?

No.

Did God specify how far apart to place your feet when you're waving and heaving? Did he specify the exact angle your head should be at? Did he specify the exact distance that your fingers should be spread? Did he specify the exact length the hairs on your arms needed to be when you waved or heaved? Is there no authentic tradition for these things?

There is an authentic Tradition from G-d's Mouth on just how exactly to perform each of the rituals (including the "waving" of Aaron's sons, which I doubt you could do just from your King James Bible). Evidently you are having trouble even understanding what I'm saying because you just now seem to be getting this and you're hurling it at me as if it is somehow supposed to be destructive of my argument.

I supported from scripture that the tabernacle could have been built and was built without tradition. I showed that God infused people with his spirit to give them the wisdom and knowledge of how to do the things he wanted done. And your response is to dismiss it by comparing my spirituality to biblical figures? Do you not think God could do the same thing to a lowly sinner like myself if he so chose?

No, you compared yourself to Biblical figures, saying that you could do it as well as they. And by the way, thank you for acknowledging that G-d had to impart wisdom and knowledge not found in the written Bible. I guess I win the argument after all, though I doubt you will notice that.

It is pointless to argue with someone who doesn't even notice that your position is itself imposed on Scripture from the outside, that the Bible contains no inspired table of contents (meaning that after G-d dictated the Torah to Moses all other Biblical books had to be approved by some human authority in order to be included), and that evidently the KJV and the "holy spirit" never seem to say the same thing to any two people. What a foundation of air on which to build a religion.

And finally, with regard thread on the Revelation at Sinai, the people received the first two commandments from the Mouth of G-d but then asked Moses to relay the rest. And Moses was not just a prophet. He was the man who spoke with G-d "face to face," which means his authority is greater than that of any prophet and the Revelation vouchsafed to him is higher than any other revelation.

101 posted on 05/27/2009 11:01:29 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bachodesh hashelishi letze't Benei-Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim; bayom hazeh ba'u Midbar Sinai.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
So what do you mean by "authentic?" Can an authentic tradition be wrong?
The Authentic Tradition is from G-d on Mt. Sinai. The traditions of other religions with other sources are the inventions of human beings.
Can an authentic tradition be wrong?
No.

Holy tradition Batman! You know that Catholics make the exact same arguments. And the MESSIAH said:

Mar 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

There is an authentic Tradition from G-d's Mouth on just how exactly to perform each of the rituals (including the "waving" of Aaron's sons, which I doubt you could do just from your King James Bible). Evidently you are having trouble even understanding what I'm saying because you just now seem to be getting this and you're hurling it at me as if it is somehow supposed to be destructive of my argument.

I'm just taking your example to it's conclusion. You say that tradition dictates how things are done. If something isn't mentioned in tradition is it unimportant? Has tradition preserved everything that God ever wished to convey to mankind? How are new traditions created? What is the newest traditions?

If you are a Jew you've surely encountered these same questions. Even Jews disagree as to their importance and Jews disagree on their traditions. So what flavor of Judaism do you agree with and what makes your belief superior over any other Jews?

And finally, with regard thread on the Revelation at Sinai, the people received the first two commandments from the Mouth of G-d but then asked Moses to relay the rest.

Is that tradition?

102 posted on 05/27/2009 11:49:25 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Zionist Conspirator

As per the Torah being written before the Universe was created...don’t the Books of Moses contain reference to events that happened after Creation? Was this added by Moses or known to G-d and prophesied by him?


109 posted on 05/28/2009 2:20:32 PM PDT by Borges
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