"Rather like Napoleon taking the diadem out of the hands of Pope Pius VII and crowning himself emperor, President Obama has, wittingly or not, declared himself the Primate of American Catholicism."
Posted on 05/20/2009 1:02:00 PM PDT by Salvation
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"Rather like Napoleon taking the diadem out of the hands of Pope Pius VII and crowning himself emperor, President Obama has, wittingly or not, declared himself the Primate of American Catholicism."
During much of his 25 minute speech, President Obama lectured Notre Dame about why some of the Church’s fundamental values don’t really matter that much and why graduates should burn these values at his altar of feigned dialogue.
Shrouded in rhetoric about “seeking common ground on abortion” was an affirmation of President Obama’s unwillingness to budge an inch on the issue himself.
... his policy history and goals are in exact contradiction to these rhetorical obfuscations. A glance at his record leaves no doubt: Senator Obama, candidate Obama, and President Obama are all the same — a radically pro-abortion person and politician.
So, is the Catholic Church in schism? (A major progressive goal.)
It was Jenkins, Tyson, the Board of Trustees at ND who chose the disobedience/schism route.
Archbishop Burke Slams Obama's Appearance at Notre Dame
Address of His Holiness Benedict XVI to Catholic University Educators, April 17, 2008
Well, if they’re not is schism, some serious spankings are in order. I won’t hold my breath. When are abortion-supporting politicians going to be barred from the sacrament of Holy Communion?
Next Archbishop of St. Louis: No Communion for Pro-Abort Politicians “ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2254949/posts “
It’s already happening — the Pope was speaking to U. S. Educators in institutions of higher learning in the link above.
Also, have you noticed that the new bishops are replacing the “Benernardin’s boys” (left-leaning) bishops?
Pope Benedict is very well on the road to fixing what has been happening in the U. S.
Stay tuned!
Schism requires excommunications, and they are not likely to happen over this. So there is no formal schism, but the rifts are deepening, to be sure. I saw “internal schism” used a couple of times. That is as far as I would go describing it.
Do not forget that Fr. Jenkins and his supporters are pro-life. They claim to have a different and extremely liberal interpretation of the canon regarding honoring politicians, but they are not openly disobeying that canon. One of these two things has to change before we have a schism: either, Jenkins &Co. have to become pro-abortion (highly unlikely) or they would have to openly oppose the canon (possible but not terribly likely). The most probable outcome is that Jenkins &Co. will weasel they way out and the US Conference of Catholic Bishops will be happy to let them, in order to avoid deepening the schism.
I guess they never read that “come out from among them and be ye separate, saith the LORD” stuff.
I think that while we on the right wing want blood on the streets and heads rolling, the Church as a whole abhors schisms above all else. We shall win through attrition of liberal Catholics, not through top-down reprisals.
Obama has used the differences in Catholics to put a crowbar between those who are strong in their faith and obedience to Catholic teaching and those who are slightly more left leaning and see more ‘nuance’ in their understanding. Good political move for him - bad for all Catholics. Sadly senior Catholics chose to to used to fascilitate this schism in unity.
Mel
God consistently demands “schism” between His people and unrighteousness.
This is eyepopping analysis on how UND got to this place. It's a keeper.
Since Fr. Jenkins is a member of the Board of a group that promotes abortion and contraception to solve poverty in Africa (the Millenium project, or some such name), how does that make him "pro-life"? And, BTW, the founder of that group also serves on the Board of Trustees of Notre Dame. The whole group is corrupt. Please read Notre Dame, Trustees, and Fr. Jenkins' Final Word if you haven't yet. I was appalled.
Haven't they already openly opposed the USCCB?
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