[DesertRhino]

Brown and Howard? Silly tripe for women and nothing more.

And you seem to get your information from uneducated people who literally have never studied the history of Government in Europe. Every government in Europe was a type of monarchy. Take a trip to Germany sometime for example, or France. Look at how the prince electors, kings, etc lived in their spendor. Note the dates. Note when the temporal governments were finally free from Vatican control.

Surely you dont argue that the vatican did not exercise the power to imprison back then? A Christian chiurch only gets this by falling into error. It doesnt come from Jesus, thats for sure.

I deeply admire anyone defending todays church. But some well-meaning, but clearly overzealous people, seem to think that defending the church today, means trying to justify anything they did back then.

[campaignPete R-CT]

yeah, just governing doesn’t come from Jesus. yeah. Jesus wants the secularists to rule. yeah.

[bdeaner]

But some well-meaning, but clearly overzealous people, seem to think that defending the church today, means trying to justify anything they did back then.

The main problem is that you seem to misunderstand the point of the article. The point of the article is not to justify what the Church did. IT DOES NOT JUSTIFY. The point is that the Church was not, and is not, fundamentally anti-science, as it is typically protrayed to be (like in the stupid movie based on the Brown book). Never was, never will be. And that is not revisionist history. Science as we know it did not emerge in ANY OTHER culture than the one laid down by Christianity. That's not just a coincidence. Think about it.