Posted on 05/13/2009 6:33:25 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
“...Kaiser, who covered the Second Vatican Council for Time magazine and recently wrote a book, Clerical Error: A True Story, asserting, he was cuckolded by the late Malachi Martin, recently met Jadot in Belgium, and published the interview for The London Tablet, September 7, under the headline, “Where’s the Red Hat?””
That’s a very enlightening article. I heard Malachi Martin calling some of these bishops Apostates. He named Weakland, Mahoney, Hubbard and Clarke for sure... There’s a couple of his tapes on the net which are free:
http://www.postpositive.org/?p=68
In the 70’s these bishops and the snookered Mother General instructed all the younger nuns to attend (brainwashing) classes, (despite the fact that their Mother Superior didn’t approve - she was overruled), and not to share what they learned with the older nuns or their Mother Superior. Today this nun and many in her order are big libs (no new recruits either - they’re dying out and they don’t know why)...we’ve had many disagreements and for some time didn’t talk to me. They can’t have a discussion because it’s their way or the highway. One of the other nuns told me Mother Angelica was too “old fashioned” - this from an 70 yo nun - but I believe she was repeating the “old-fashioned” bit from her old days at the classes and not necessarily targeting M Angelica specifically but using her as an example.
” What does this tell us about the silence of the remaining bishops on the upcoming commencement at Notre Dame? Certainly there are those who agree with the 68 who have gone on the record against his selection. Perhaps they think the issue has been sufficiently flogged, especially with the public statement by USCCB President Francis Cardinal George.
But how many simply disagree with those bishops and think Notre Dame is doing the right thing by honoring President Obama? Is this the meaning of their silence? Do the majority of U.S. bishops agree with Notre Dame? If so, that may well be one of the reasons Notre Dame’s officials felt free to issue the invitation in the first place.”
There is also the possibility that the majority of Latin Rite bishops in America take the Ecumenical Council proclaimed canon against bishops meddling in the affairs of other bishops’ dioceses more seriously than those few who will violate any canon to advance a political agenda.
Well below half. If you count auxiliary bishops, probably about a third.
Why do you keep saying this? To support what the ordinary is doing is meddling?
“To support what the ordinary is doing is meddling.”
R, no Ordinary needs the “support” of other bishops in managing the affairs of his diocese. The Ordinary has decided what he will do within his own diocese as is completely appropriate. I have seen nowhere that the local Ordinary put out an SOS to other bishops. For a number of bishops to weigh in with condemnations of a priest under obedience to the local Ordinary or of the actions of an institution within that local Ordinary’s diocese is interference and meddling, whether that condemnation is denominated “support” or simply political showboating.
The priest in question is not under obedience to the bishop but to his “abbot” so to speak.
Dear Ms. xxxxx:
Thank you for your kindness in writing a letter sharing your concerns about the University of Notre Dame’s invitation to President Obama to speak at the commencement this month. As the Communications Director for the Archdiocese of Atlanta, I am responding to your message on behalf of Archbishop Gregory.
Archbishop Gregory has not made a public comment about the Notre Dame controversy, but has allowed Bishop John D’Arcy of Fort Wayne-South Bend to be the one to take the lead since Notre Dame is within his diocese. You are encouraged to contact Father John Jenkins, CSC, the President of the University of Notre Dame, to express your personal dismay at the invitation.
Grace and peace,
Patricia M. Chivers
Communications Director Archdiocese of Atlanta
I note that the illustrious Bishop Skylstad of the Diocese of Spokane, WA (and former President of the USCCB) is conspicuous by his absence from the list...
I know nothing of such a canon, teaching or tradition (no surprise there, since I'm not Catholic), but if it does exist, and the bishops are self-consciously observing it, I can see that as a legitimate excuse for a bishop's silence. But I seriously doubt that all of the silent bishops are doing so out of obedience to the canon.
“But I seriously doubt that all of the silent bishops are doing so out of obedience to the canon.”
I expect you are right.
I don’t know AnAmerican Mother, sounds like Bishop Gregory is coping out...but it really doesn’t surpise me.
The GOOD news is that this is obviously a form letter, so he has received enough mail about it to have to prepare one. This is good because he knows people are exercised about this. Maybe NEXT time he'll get up the guts to say something.
I have not seen my Archbishop, Favalora of Miami on the list either and wrote him to ask he sign the Cardinal Newman Petition. I received a reply that Archbishop Favalora has had numerous problems with Notre Dame in the past. When the University bestowed the Laetare Medal to Daniel Patrick Moynihan in 1995, Archbishop Favalora recalled a priest on graduate studies there at the time.
I was told that sending a letter to Notre Dame where his position is well know, Favalora preferred to educate and speak out to his local Catholic Community via Peace Radio and an upcoming issue of The Florida Catholic.
I can only assume the diocese did not want to answer my specific request for the Bishop to sign the Cardinal Newman Society Petition or they did not know about it.
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