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To: ReformationFan; marsh-mellow; Marie2
In my opinion it is utter nonsense to relate celibacy to any of the situations mentioned. Celibacy is a Church discipline regarding the lifestyle of the priest. Loneliness probably relates to celibacy, and by a long extension you might be able to hook these in, but to make an issue of celibacy relative to these problems is a stretch.

Celibacy does relate to service to the church, whether it's requirement is a good thing considering the shortage of priests, the resulting lack of heterosexual vocations, and the very frequent violations of the discipline. What best meets the needs of the Church today?

5 posted on 05/12/2009 2:38:36 PM PDT by VidMihi ("In fide, unitas; in dubiis, libertas; in omnibus, caritas.")
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To: VidMihi
whether it's requirement is a good thing considering the shortage of priests,

The 21 Churches in the Eastern Rites of the Catholic Church which ordain, as a norm, married men, are all experiencing a shortage of Priests as is the Greek Orthodox Church which also ordains married men and pays their clerics quite a bit more than the Catholic Church does. The "do away with celibacy and all our problems will be solved" argument is, at best, specious.

What best meets the needs of the Church today?

Obedience and fidelity to God ,just as it has always been.

7 posted on 05/12/2009 3:43:25 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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