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Why, he was asked recently, can't he be more like that nice Raymond Burke, who as archbishop of St. Louis told Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius that unless she fell in line on abortion, she couldn't join the Communion line on Sunday?....

....For bishops, "there are two different approaches'' to bring Catholic politicians in line with Church teaching. "One is the pastoral, teaching mode, and the other is the canonical approach'' – the legal approach, in other words. He doesn't think it's a very close call: "I have yet to see where the canonical approach has changed anyone's heart.''

Has he seen his approach change anyone's heart? He smiles, and says one has to take the long view: "The teaching approach that we've used for centuries requires patience, persistence and insistence, but I believe if we teach our people, we will not have a problem with our politicians.''

Of Pelosi in particular, he cites two big reasons he hasn't and won't try to keep her from receiving Communion:

First, "there's a question about whether this canon'' – the relevant church law – "was ever intended to be used'' to bring politicians to heel. He thinks not. "I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon was never intended to be used this way.''

1 posted on 05/08/2009 10:50:01 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

That’s ok. She probably does even go to church anyway.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 10:52:24 AM PDT by Dacula (You are where you are by the choices you make)
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To: wagglebee
Ping as a follow-up to our conversation yesterday...
3 posted on 05/08/2009 10:55:26 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Presbyterians often forget that John Knox had been a Sunday bowler.)
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To: Alex Murphy
First, "there's a question about whether this canon'' – the relevant church law – "was ever intended to be used'' to bring politicians to heel. He thinks not. "I stand with the great majority of American bishops and bishops around the world in saying this canon was never intended to be used this way.''

He's confusing abortion with politics.

4 posted on 05/08/2009 10:56:18 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (A fine head of hair lends beauty to a handsome face, and terror to an ugly one.)
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To: Alex Murphy
And you won't do anything about that, either, will you, Excellency, except perhaps to tap your finger on the conference table some more as faithful Catholics are being dumped on the unemployment line for upholding Catholic teaching ... while those who architected the dumping are queuing up for communion at your Cathedral?

Just what would it take to make you angry at a liberal Democrat, Excellency?

Then the famously mild

Too mild by half.

Wuerl goes all fire and brimstone on me – in his smiling, bookish way: "In his circles of Hell, Dante places the people with sins of passion at the very brim – barely burned. But at the core are those who sinned against the truth.''

Wrong. Completely and absolutely wrong.

Dante places at the very core of hell those who are traitors against their masters. At the center is Satan (traitor against God), who eternally chews Judas (traitor against Christ), Brutus, and Cassius (traitors against Caesar).

Ringed around them in the lowest circle are the traitors against their guests, traitors against their country, and traitors against their family.

Pro-abortion Catholics are traitors.

5 posted on 05/08/2009 11:08:20 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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And third, I am a political beast who does not want to burn any bridges with my liberal friends.

As for the Archbishop not knowing if the canon should be applied to our political lives, he may want want to bring that up with his boss.

Jesus' biggest in-your-face confrontations during His ministry on this earth were not with the "sinners". They were with the religious/political leaders in Jerusalem.

7 posted on 05/08/2009 11:10:51 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: Alex Murphy

I think, when Pelosi or someone like her is allowed to receive communion in a particular parish, Catholics should begin to shun that church, and attach to the nearest telephone pole an explanation why.


13 posted on 05/08/2009 11:52:53 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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“What in the world were these bishops talking about, claiming that religious freedom in America was under attack? Keep up the hysterics, boys, I thought as I scanned the latest story, and this will be birth control all over again: Your lips are moving but no one can hear you. And the most ludicrous line out of them, surely, was about how, under Obama, Catholic hospitals that provide obstetric and gynecological services might soon be forced to perform abortions or close their doors.”
http://www.slate.com/id/2205326

That’s how much respect the author of this thread has for our Bishops.


15 posted on 05/08/2009 12:00:56 PM PDT by chase19
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To: Alex Murphy
Wuerl: Why I Won't Deny Pelosi Communion

Because he's a good Democrat first and a good Catholic second?

16 posted on 05/08/2009 12:04:50 PM PDT by penowa
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I’m not aware of anyone of note “denied at the rail.”

Perhaps this is one reason for the Catholic Church’s being ripped assunder daily by its rabid assailants.

Respect doen’t just come from what people say....


18 posted on 05/08/2009 12:23:45 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Alex Murphy

John 21:15-17

When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” A second time he said to him, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.” He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” And he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep.”

Feed my lambs: Grow the young in the church.
Tend my sheep: Keep the sheep in line with Jesus’ teachings, disciplining where necessary.
Feed my sheep: Nuture in the church.

Where is this bishop “tending” the sheep?


21 posted on 05/08/2009 12:49:09 PM PDT by melissa_in_ga (Welcome to the USSA. Be alert. Stock up.)
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