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To: Godzilla

I didn’t try defending the JST in my post, I didn’t want to get off topic like that so I only acknowledged the fact that we disagree about it and pointed out that the standard you want to apply to us doesn’t exactly work in your favour when applied to traditional Christianity. A point you neglected to address in your reply I noticed.

It also seems from your reply that you are unaware that the JST was still a work in progress when Joseph died, which is why it is not part of our cannon of scripture. There are likely several things in there that should still be corrected. Rather different than sneaking something into the text of an existing translation and hoping nobody catches on.


92 posted on 05/05/2009 7:59:23 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig; Godzilla
It also seems from your reply that you are unaware that the JST was still a work in progress when Joseph died, which is why it is not part of our cannon of scripture.

#1...Joseph Smith was repeatedly COMMANDED by the Mormon god to translate AND PUBLISH the JST...See D&C 35:20; 42:56-57; 45:57-62. These Mormon god commandments were all supposedly given 1830-1831. Smith died in 1844. He had 14 years to fulfill this commandment. So are telling us with a frank face that your founding "prophet" directly disobeyed the Mormon god?

#2...Is the D&C still a "work in progress" (yes or no?)

Since you & other lds usually refrain from consistently responding to me, I'll go ahead & comment -- depending upon which you answer:

If you answer "yes" -- then what's the difference between the D&C & Jst? If both are a "work in progress" -- then how can the D&C be deemed "canon" but the Jst is just reduced to mere footnote status?

If you answer "no" -- that the D&C is a "finished work" -- then you're guilty of what LDS accuse Christians of all the time -- having a closed revelational canon.

I guess you're stuck, Grig. You've boxed yourself in re: your own catch-22...you're philosophical, theologically, and worldview-wise inconsistent no matter how you try to dialogue your way out of this.

93 posted on 05/05/2009 8:26:47 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Grig

What amazes me is that many here can mind read and state things not as opinions but as a fact or a truth which is done often on RF.

When that is done it shows that they break the 9th commandments with out blinking many times a day.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness (Lie)


94 posted on 05/05/2009 8:39:54 PM PDT by restornu (In The US Republic rights are given to men from their Creator, tyrants deny the power there of!)
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To: Grig
I didn’t try defending the JST in my post, I didn’t want to get off topic like that so I only acknowledged the fact that we disagree about it and pointed out that the standard you want to apply to us doesn’t exactly work in your favour when applied to traditional Christianity. A point you neglected to address in your reply I noticed.

There is no way that Smith could be held to the same standard - since he is unable to translate Greek or Hebrew texts from which the KJV was translated from. His JST is a spurious translation. Fact is we have the Greek MS in greater numbers and qualities now. The Johnnine Comma has been known about for a very long time now and in most translations appears as a foot note.

It also seems from your reply that you are unaware that the JST was still a work in progress when Joseph died, which is why it is not part of our cannon of scripture.

Bzzzzt, wrong answer. On the second day of February, 1833, they finished the work of correcting the New Testament record. Six months to a day, on July 2, 1833, the Old Testament was finished according to a letter which was written by Joseph Smith from Far West back to Kirtland to the saints there. So much for the history and record of the production of the Inspired Version! The NT, in which the Johnnane comma is located was finished 6 months before the OT. Perhaps you need study up on your own history before insunating that it was inserted deviously into the scripture.

Not part of your canon - lol - yep, that other mormon group - RLDS has it. But lds inc. does have an authorized copy that uses it abundantly for footnotes. More lame excuses.

95 posted on 05/05/2009 9:11:28 PM PDT by Godzilla (TEA: Taxed Enough Already)
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