This is a fantasy that has been perpetuated for the last 1700 years. The reason it became implanted to begin with was the sheer power of the newly formed Church/State system which saw to it that all contrary thought and opinion was forbidden and punishable by death for anyone who continued in that vein. Any doctrine that smacked of Judaism was declared a heresy and totally eliminated from Catholic dogma. Unfortunately....they neglected to consider that Our Lord and the Apostles....as well as most of the early Christians were Jewish! In fact Christianity was considered a sect of Judaism 30 years after the crucifixion [Acts 28:21-22]. Think how silly people would appear if they called modern Catholicism a Jewish sect today. This will give you an idea of how far this insidious organization has taken the "Church of the First Century".....and demolished the original intent of Our Lord and the Apostles!
This diabolical system has grown to represent most of the false doctrine that has much of humanity perpetually confused about Our Lord and God of the universe. It had been infused with paganism to make it attractive to the masses and over the years has gained an aura of legitimacy.
However.....a cursory examination of the doctrines of the Catholic Church will find that most are wrong, most are invented, most are non scriptural and all are devised to keep the masses ignorant.
A classic example of what I write of appears at the top of this post. Christ was crucified on a Wednesday (easy to verify for the curious), He was buried shortly before sundown on that same day (14th Nisan, 30 A.D.) (again, very simple to prove with secular world history), and He arose from the dead on the Sabbath. The Greek Language proves this, the original manuscripts testify to it and any one who has the slightest interest in learning the truth about this question has no excuse for continuing to believe the lies that have been told about this event for the last 1700 years.
You can kick and scream all you want about your silly little Friday afternoon/Sunday morning affair but the truth is unchangeable and is written for all to see.
Over and over and over this "pagan day of the Sun" claim is made, disproved, and then reposted as if nothing happened. The other name for that is LYING.
However.....a cursory examination of the doctrines of the Catholic Church will find that most are wrong, most are invented, most are non scriptural and all are devised to keep the masses ignorant.
But an intelligent, thoughtful, prayerful examination will demonstrate otherwise. Next time try doing better than cursory.
Assuming your right then I can assume that Christ rested on Friday (unless I'm missing something). And If I'm not missing something then accordingly from your theology shouldn't you be resting on worshipping on Friday instead of Saturday, and I don't mean starting on Friday evening.
The problem I have with arguing dates is that if God wanted us to know the physical exact dates he would of had the Apostles record the exact dates so that there would be no question in mind, that is a personal opinion though.
I've seen both sides of theological schools quote the Church fathers, for their side of their arguments. Some do better at quoting them then other, basically there is a lot of quoting taking out of context, just as many theological schools take the scriptures out of context. So basically I have a problem with certain Schools of theology trying to prove their cases with historical data when they can't even get their theology of scripture correct.
It's an interesting argument, but a credible non-Christian source detailed the early Christian practice of gathering in the morning on the first day of the week sinning and prating together and then after work gathering and having the Lord's Supper, which was a part of the Agape Feast. If worshiping on Saturday versus Sunday was so critical why did the earliest Christian churches do this?
I realize part of the practice was based in the early church being made up of Jews and Gentiles, but if the holiest day was Saturday why not worship with your Gentile brothers in Christ then and have the Lord's Supper then?
Diego likes to push the 30 AD theory because he is doctrinally predisposed to reject a Sunday resurrection. There are serious problems chronologically with his AD 30 besides the fact that his proposed Sabbath sequence conflicts with the gospel narrative. There are other data points here that help us confirm the year.
First Luke 3:1–3 tells us that John the Baptist, Jesus’ forerunner, began his ministry “in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar.” Both Roman historians Tacitus (Annales 4 §4) and Suetonius (Tiberius 73) date the beginning of Tiberius’s reign at A.D. 14 (the precise date is August 19, the day of Emperor Augustus’s death). Hence the 15th year of Tiberius’s reign, counting from August 19, A.D. 14, brings us to A.D. 29 (14 + 15 = 29). Luke’s account also indicates that John, who was older, had been preaching for a while before Jesus was baptized. Note that AD 29 is only one year away from AD 30. Diego only allows 1 year for Jesus’ ministry, which is far too short of a period to account for the gospel account
The Apostle John lists 3 passovers - (2:13, 23); (6:4); and (11:55; 12:1). It is possible that there was a fourth that might be inferred from Mt 12:1 - but that could be another feast as well. This adds up to a length of about 3 ½ years for Jesus’ ministry - placing His crucifixion in AD33. Once again, Diego’s numbers don’t match the scriptural account.
Finally, in 33 CE the full moon occurred on Friday, Nisan 14th. That makes the Passover a double sabbath since it coincides with the weekly sabbath. John in 20:31 writes ¶ The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
The chronology from the gospels is very straight forward from there on. Jesus died at the time the Passover lambs were being killed and was buried before the start of the High Sabbath (before 6 PM Friday). The guard was placed at the tomb some time Saturday. And the women came to the tomb at dawn (the day after the sabbaths - a reference to the double sabbath celebrated Friday night - Sat night and at dawn the angel removed the stone. Much more can be said of this sequence, but the simple facts point to 33 CE as the year of Jesus’ death. -
1. Only 33 AD meets the clear time line for the ministry documented in the gospels 2. It has the passover coinciding with the weekly sabbath, matching the gospel narrative.
Diego may claim ‘simple biblical truths’, but he ignores simple biblical truths to come up with his mythological sequence.
And kick and scream he will! So much for this thread...