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To: reaganaut

The Episcopal church says the same creeds every week, yet the church is corrupt root and branch. I admire the beauty of the liturgy, but we are done for if we rest in it thinking that rote recitation will maintain true teaching.


8 posted on 05/02/2009 12:19:48 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: newguy357

The Episcopal church says the same creeds every week, yet the church is corrupt root and branch. I admire the beauty of the liturgy, but we are done for if we rest in it thinking that rote recitation will maintain true teaching.

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I agree rote recitation is not an answer. The Episcopal church (and many other churches) have erred in not holding its adherents to the beliefs found the CONTENT of the creeds. That is what needs to change. My church holds true to the content of the creeds regardless of how often they say them.

I also know several churches that never say any creeds yet hold true to their contents.

Liberal churches who recite the creeds, yet teach opposite doctrine are like the Pharisees whom Christ speaks about in Matthew 15:18:

“This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.”


9 posted on 05/02/2009 12:26:01 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: newguy357

Hi.

Former Pepsicolian here.

In terms of Salvation’s choice (a few posts above) of worshipping the words or scorning them, SOME Pepsicolians manage to do both! I heard the rector of a nearby parish call the creed a “poem”! My ample behind it’s a poem! But one could see that what he was doing was giving himself permission to say it without meaning it.

But, saying it beats not saying it (or them) for the reason that out there is some young kid who doesn’t yet realize that the man in a dress is lying. That kid is wrestling with the creeds, trying to understand them and why we say them and what they’re about. So the insincere liturgical blather of the priest is being used by God to touch the heart and mind of one of His elect.

I know whereof I speak here ...


10 posted on 05/02/2009 2:30:43 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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