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To: Iscool
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...

So, you interpret "begotten" (monogenes) to mean that the Son is a creature, or as Paul would say, the "firstborn (prototokos) of every creature "(Col 1:15, KJV)?

105 posted on 05/04/2009 10:11:26 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: Iscool; kosta50; Cronos; MarkBsnr
"Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...

So, you interpret "begotten" (monogenes) to mean that the Son is a creature, or as Paul would say, the "firstborn (prototokos) of every creature "(Col 1:15, KJV)?"

Fair question, I. It deserves an answer. Words and concepts do matter in theology. Misconceptions, often arising from a sola scriptura mindset, are why we have the Creed in the first place and while the words in English are loose to say the least, in Greek they are very, very precise. For example, and a propos of what you wrote, the Creed says in Greek that Christ is "homoousios" to the Father, of the same ousia (or essence though that's a bad translation). What the Arians and some others were saying was that Christ was "homoiousios", of like ousia to the Father. One letter, iota, makes all the difference, I.

112 posted on 05/05/2009 3:51:58 AM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: kosta50
So, you interpret "begotten" (monogenes) to mean that the Son is a creature, or as Paul would say, the "firstborn (prototokos) of every creature "(Col 1:15, KJV)?

Begotten meas 'born'...It's not a tough as you make it out to be...

116 posted on 05/05/2009 8:11:35 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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