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To: nonsporting

>>Yes, but as with all analogies they fail. The lake of fire discussed at judgement is not the first death but the second which is eternal<<

I agree. If I drop my car into a vat of molten steel, it’s death will be eternal. It ain’t comming back.

Death, by definition, is an ending. And saying it is eternal means it will not be undone.

If I paint a wall blue for all eternity, it doesn’t mean I paint it for all eternity. It means I painted it once and for all eternity it STAYS blue it is (aionios) blueness, but the event that caused it to be blue is finite.

The punishment is death, and it is eternal. It will not be undone.

And


99 posted on 05/01/2009 8:30:16 AM PDT by RobRoy (I'm wearing a cast on one hand. My spelling and clarity may not be up to par right now.)
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To: RobRoy
If I paint a wall blue for all eternity, it doesn’t mean I paint it for all eternity. It means I painted it once and for all eternity it STAYS blue it is (aionios) blueness, but the event that caused it to be blue is finite.

I like that analogy! I'm going to use it. 8^)
107 posted on 05/01/2009 11:30:07 AM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: RobRoy
Death by Biblical definition is a separation. The "first" death is separation of the spirit from the physical body, but there is continuing (to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord--2 Corinth. 5:8) The "second" death is separation of the resurrected person from God for eternity while consigned to the lake of fire. There is continuation within the lake of fire as attested to by the torment of Satan and his followers.

The lake of fire is a physical place. (In contrast annihilation is no place). It burns (a continuous activity) with fire and brimstone, unquenchable (Mark 9:43), with an unending torment for those who enter ("For everyone will be salted with fire" Mark 9:49). This punishment will be experienced eternally and will not be undone.

108 posted on 05/01/2009 11:34:31 AM PDT by nonsporting
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