[pgkdan]

How do you explain the parable of Lazarus in Abraham’s arms while the rich man suffers in hell from Luke 16?

[RobRoy]

>>How do you explain the parable of Lazarus in Abraham’s arms while the rich man suffers in hell from Luke 16?<<

Well, for starters, it IS a parable.

[RegulatorCountry]

They were in Sheol, which had many levels, from Paradise at the uppermost level, otherwise known as Abraham’s Bosom, down to the lowest depths, where the rebellious angels and evil spirits were bound. The rich man was in a much lower level, tormented due to the darkness and the accute awareness of being separated from God, but could see Lazarus.

[Sherman Logan]

As a parable. I also don’t believe that his parable of the vineyard referred to a literal king who had his son murdered by those he left in charge of the vineyard.

If taken literally it requires ignoring the literally dozens or hundreds of verses indicating the opposite.

But I respect the fact that most disagree.

[ScubieNuc]

How do you explain the parable of Lazarus in Abraham’s arms while the rich man suffers in hell from Luke 16?

Good question. Here's my answer:

The parable of the Rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16: 19-31).

It is the fifth parable in a series of parables starting in Luke 15. These parables are in response to the Pharisees and scribes talking about how Jesus receives sinners and tax collectors.

The first parable is about the lost sheep and how a shepherd will leave the safe 99 to find the one lost sheep. The second parable is about the woman and the ten pieces of silver, and how she cleans house to find the one missing piece. The third parable is about the prodigal son who once was lost but now is found. The fourth parable is about the rich man and his steward who settles his debts for less then what was owed. The fifth parable is about the rich man and Lazarus.

A few interesting things to note:

When Jesus spoke to the groups he spoke ONLY in parables.

Mat 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

The parables all deal with money on some level.

The parables are about the value of the “least of these” over the money value.

Before starting the parable of Lazarus, Jesus states that the “Law and Prophets UNTIL John”.

The Pharisees are not happy with Jesus’s teachings.

After the Lazarus story, you read in Luke 17 about how Jesus heals 10 lepers but only ONE comes back and thanks Jesus. That one was a Samaritan, not a Jew.

The main reason people say that this isn’t a parable is because Jesus uses a name, so let’s look at that name. Lazarus is the Greek word for the Hebrew name Eliezer. What is interesting about that name is Abraham was going to give his inheritance to Eliezer of Damascus (Gen. 15:2-4), but God provided Abraham with his own lineage.

This raises the question as to why Jesus didn’t name the rich man. He does describe the rich man though, so we can analyze what those things tells us. The rich man was dressed in purple and fine linen (cambric). Purple was known as a royal color worn by kings and royalty. Cambric or fine linen was clothing worn by priests (Ex. 28:5, 25:4) and it decorated the Tabernacle (Ex. 26:1). Judah was given the position of ruler of the Jews (Gen. 49:10). Judah also had five brothers from his Leah (Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulun). Because Judah was the leader of the nation of Israel, Israelites were known as followers of Judah or what we now call Jews.

From this breakdown, we can see that the rich man symbolizes the nation of Israel, including their priests and kings. Lazarus symbolizes those outside of Abraham’s inheritance or Gentiles. This makes sense when you consider who Jesus was talking with and who was upset by it in Luke 15. It also fits in with the other parables dealing with who was lost and what real value is.

One other aspect to look at is, does this story make sense if it reveals an actual event?

Is being wealthy and well dressed a sin deserving Hell?
Is being thrown into the street, being poor, and begging a virtue worthy of Heaven?
If Lazarus ascended into heaven, then doesn’t that contradict Jesus saying that no man has ascended in to heaven in John 3:13?
How many people could actually fit in Abraham’s bosom?
Is the torments the rich man is feeling, physical? If so, how does he see through the flames? People on fire close their eyes. How does the rich man talk coherently about saving his brothers or being tormented, or wanting water from Lazarus’s finger tip? If you are burning up, what good is moisture on the tip of a finger? Why not cry to have your skin or eyes drenched?
Why does the rich man go to hell without a day in court?
How does the rich man recognize Abraham? If the rich man recognizes Abraham how would he have “heard” Moses (who lived hundreds of years after Abraham)?

When you look at the totality of actual events would be like and the context of the story, it becomes clear that it is a parable telling of value and the fallen state of Abraham’s descendants.

[fightinJAG]

Here’s how it’s been explained to me:

Both Heaven and Hell are temporary. They are places where people go if they die before Jesus has returned to earth.

Those who were abiding in Jesus at the time of their first death will wait in Heaven.

When Jesus comes back, they return to earth to be part of Christ’s “kingdom of heaven on earth.” (See, e.g., the Lord’s prayer-—”your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.) They will be part of Christ’s global administration (”the government will be upon his shoulders”). This is the parable of the “talents” and the servants who, having been faithful and turning a profit, are given greater responsibilities when the Master comes back (”the charge of many cities”).

Those who were not abiding in Jesus at the time of their first death will wait in Hell, which is what the rich man was doing in the parable of Lazarus in Abraham’s arms. At the End of the Age, they, along with the people who lived on the earth during Jesus’ millennial reign, will be judged. (Those who were abiding with Jesus at the time of their first death were already judged-—they were *finally* judged-—meaning: they won’t be judged again-—to be righteous by the blood of Christ and, therefore, went to wait in Heaven.)

Since, at the End of the Age (the history of the world as we know it), the sheep will be separated from the goats, it seems that Hell was not based on *final* judgment. It was based on judgment at the first death-—that is, that the person was not abiding in Jesus at that time. So someone in Hell may take the opportunity to repent and bow to Jesus.

At the final judgment, the judged will either be brought into the Kingdom (the city outside of which is weeping and gnashing of teeth) or thrown into the pit and annihilated.

And that’s where Volume I stops. Sequel not yet published.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

How do you explain the parable of Lazarus in Abraham’s arms while the rich man suffers in hell from Luke 16?

That it's a parable? In any case, I'm glad the OP posted this, certainly worthy of discussion - my own view would agree with the article, in fact I recall that in the case of those judged to hell are blotted out, erased from being so completely that even believers in Heaven who knew them would no longer remember they even existed. Referred to as the Second Death, death of the soul, as opposed to the First Death of the body. Death and eternal life don't seem to go hand in hand. I know I'm in the minority on this but so be it.