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To: Lee N. Field; topcat54; raynearhood; Quix; TaraP; Jo Nuvark

Well, we already know that there are those — like y’all — who think that those prophecies (that many of us are talking about) have already been fulfilled in the past and are not relevant for today, and that the nation of Israel is not significant, today, in terms of prophecy in the Bible.

And you can keep on thinking that... LOL... (heck! I’m not even trying to change your mind...)

The rest of us will go along with looking at Israel, today, as being significant and relevant in the prophecies of the Bible, and listening to teachers who are teaching from pre-millennial, pre-tribulational and dispensational theology — which does have Israel, of today, being the focus of these Bible prophecies.

You can have fun in your sandbox... :-)


8 posted on 04/21/2009 10:28:39 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler; Lee N. Field; raynearhood
The rest of us …

You can have fun in your sandbox... :-)

The futurists bemoan the fact that the rest of Christendom does not see eschatology through dispensational glasses. That’s OK. But, contrary to your opinion, this is not the result of some diabolical plot to keep truth from people. There are many, perhaps a majority, of biblically astute, regenerate Christians who refuse to go along with the futurist agenda. As long as the Jan Markels of this world keep trying to paint it as a conspiracy, it will be difficult for the rest of us to take it seriously.

I much prefer our sandbox to your mud puddle.

9 posted on 04/21/2009 11:50:04 AM PDT by topcat54 (Don't believe in a pre-anything rapture? Join "Naysayers for Jesus")
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To: Star Traveler; topcat54; raynearhood
Well, we already know that there are those — like y’all — who think that those prophecies (that many of us are talking about) have already been fulfilled in the past and are not relevant for today,

Opinions vary, as you should well know, as to how and to what extent various biblical prophecies have been fulfilled.

and is the same type of “attitude” as you would say describes the viewpoint of Jan Markell.

I find Jan Markell's attitude poisonous.

we’ll continue teaching that there is a Rapture that happens which is a separate event from the coming of the Lord to set up the Kingdom on earth, literally and physically, and that Israel *is significant* in terms of the prophecies of God and that there are many “end-times” prophecies that have to be fulfilled with Israel, before the coming of the Lord to set up the Kingdom and that there will be a 1,000 year reign of the Lord over this earth, during which time Satan will be chained and bound and not allowed to deceive the nations during this time.

And, if this thread follows the usual course, before long some thoroughgoing heretics will chime in in support of dispensationalist interpretation.

13 posted on 04/21/2009 4:10:15 PM PDT by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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