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To: Paved Paradise
I disagree - God has written His law on the hearts of ALL men and that is why no man will ever be able to stand before God and say He didn’t know

Not really. In fact, Hebrews 8 says (at first, verse 7) "The time is coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah" but just 3 verses later it drops the house of Judah "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people."

Where are you getting "all men" form this? Whoever wrote Hebrews was mixing and matching form Luke, Jeremiah and Paul, and making up quotes. Of course, if you go to the source, Jeremiah 31 opens up with ""At that time," declares the LORD, 'I will be the God of all the clans of Israel, and they will be my people.'"

And, let's not forget that Jesus himself is quoted as saying that he came ONLY for the lost sheep of Israel and not "all men." The "all men" idea was an afterthought as evidenced in Acts 13:46 "Then Paul and Barnabas answered them boldly: "We had to speak the word of God to you first. Since you reject it and do not consider yourselves worthy of eternal life, we now turn to the Gentiles." Going to the Gentiles was never taught by Jesus.

Oh, and if you are going to mention the Great Commission (Mat 28:19), don't bother. What is commonly translated as "nations" simply means tribes (the tribes of Israel). And the Trinitarian part is a latter-day addition. It doesn't exist in Bible source prior to the 4th century. They all say "in my name."

64 posted on 04/21/2009 10:48:12 AM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: kosta50

I love how you blather on and then tell me if I’m going to mention the Great Commission, “Don’t Bother.”

YOU are part of the reason why so many people NEVER open their ears to hear the good news of the Gospel of Christ. YOU so stubbornly hold to your own interpretation that you won’t even listen.

Glad you think the “all men” was just an afterthought and tha tyou say that whomever wrote Hebrews was “making up quotes.” Making UP?????

Based on what you have written here, God will only redeem the lost sheep of Israel, so where does that leave us Gentiles who were not Jews or part of Israel?

As for the Trinity, are you implying this is incorrect. If so, you need to be honest about your beliefs and clear b/c I’m not sure where you are coming from but it sure isn’t Scripture that I know.


65 posted on 04/21/2009 12:53:25 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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