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To: Star Traveler

And you are saying that if I don’t swallow the stuff that was excreted by the Nicean Council, I can’t be a Christian. No matter that I believe in God the Father, His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ (the one born in Bethlehem) and the Holy Ghost?


67 posted on 04/15/2009 2:44:14 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Blessed be the Peacemaker.)
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To: Old Mountain man
What is it about the Nicene Creed that has your holy undies in a bunch?

believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

Who, for us men and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

70 posted on 04/15/2009 2:46:46 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Old Mountain man

If someone teaches the Trinity is not true, it’s *non-Christian teaching*.

That’s one of the first things that was sorted out in the very early centuries, because of some who did try to teach it wasn’t true back then.

That means if a person is in a group that teaches that the Trinity is not true, that person is in a *cult*...

That’s one of the primary definitions of a cult.


76 posted on 04/15/2009 2:49:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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