Posted on 04/03/2009 8:00:55 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
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Q: There are some significant differences in your beliefs. For instance, don’t Mormons believe that God was once a man?
A: I wouldn’t say that. There was a couplet coined, “As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become.” Now that’s more of a couplet than anything else. That gets into some pretty deep theology that we don’t know very much about.
(President Gordon B. Hinckley with Don Lattin, the San Francisco Chronicle religion writer. The article was dated Sunday, April 13, 1997) [1]
Q: Just another related question that comes up is the statements in the King Follet discourse by the Prophet.
A: Yeah
Q: ... about that, God the Father was once a man as we were. This is something that Christian writers are always addressing. Is this the teaching of the church today, that God the Father was once a man like we are?
A: I dont know that we teach it. I dont know that we emphasize it. I havent heard it discussed for a long time in public discourse. I dont know. I dont know all the circumstances under which that statement was made. I understand the philosophical background behind it. But I dont know a lot about it and I dont know that others know a lot about it.
(Time magazine of August 4, 1997, in an article titled “Kingdom Come,” page 56)
- Peter Crawley, writing in Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought, Autumn 1982
LOL...
Wow...
For “prophet” he sure does seem to be “less than knowledgeable” about his boss...
TRANSLATION:
We make the stuff up as we go along...
Makes it easier to defend anything if we really believe in nothing concrete...
OR...to "restate and reinterpret the doctrines of CHRISTIANITY TO FIT MORMON DOCTRINE".
Like trying to nail jello to the wall
Be careful, if you actually say what the Mormons believe they may want to drag your PC into the street and pie the hard drive.
Just ask the Expositor news paper.
http://solomonspalding.com/docs/exposit1.htm
Dining Among The Saints: Married Into a Mormon Family and Seeking Redemption in the Jell-O Belt
"Mormons focus on accessible, social aspects of their religion. Although the Mormon system of doctrine is genuinely attractive to many of its members, many have argued that the primary "glue" of Mormonism is the heritage, culture, and family ties, not the doctrine and theology.In other words, the typical allegiance to the Mormon organization primarily stems from something other than doctrinal concerns. The average Mormon sitting in a pew does not care how or why their religion works, they only care that it works for them."
From the thread Atheoligical Tendency ~Open~
That, and the blind belief that they are "special" and beyond the judgment of anyone but Joseph Smith.
They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.
He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.
He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.
As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.
Who has made this so?
Have I?
Have this people?
Have the world?
No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.
If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.
If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.
Can you pass without his inspection?
No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.
In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.
They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?
They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?
"If I ever pass into heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of Prophet Joseph"
--Brigham Young
--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224
Indeed it would seem that a significant part of Mormon theology exists primarily in the minds of the members... the absence of a formal creed means that each generation must produce a new set of gospel expositors to restate and reinterpret the doctrines of Mormonism....”
Then HOW can it claim to still be the “one true Church on the face of the earth” if every generation changes doctrine to suit its needs?
lol, lol lol
They have a life-style that they want to pass off as a religion, a religion whose theology exists nefariously in their noggins and can’t always be accessed.
Because for Mormons, it is not - and has never been - about doctrine per se. The entire LDS system is about claims to authority and succession. Doctrine (or more properly, the altering of it) is part-and-parcel of the long-term LDS experience. "New revelations" and changes to "official doctrines" are simply mechanisms used to test the membership, to see if they're continuously paying attention to/obeying the current authorities, not just the past ones. It's not about truth or doctrine in their system - it's about making sure your membership is current.
I disagree in part. It's about trying to ascertain that every soul, whether living or dead, is confirmed a member of the mormon church and subject to the laws and ordinances thereof, in the process filling the earthly coffers and bringing the souls of those who died under the command of Joseph Smith.
". . . no man or woman in this dispensation will ever enter into the celestial kingdom of God without the consent of Joseph Smith.
Mormons take the law of consecration seriously enough to take this oath in their temple ceremony, "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion."
We make the stuff up as we go along...
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Hinckley:
“What’s today...Friday ???
I dont know that we teach it on Fridays...
But ask me again on Tuesday...
I’ll wet my finger and raise it to see what we believe then...”
;)
You sound so Mormon when you do that...
AAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH
Say it aint so !!!!!!!
We all know it is just an impersonation, relax...
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