>You refused to answer my question. Let me repeat it. It is a simple yes/no question:
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>If I might ask, have you allegorized the creation story sufficiently in your mind that you believe (based on the evidence of dry bones), that man was not a special creation of God, but that he descended from lower forms of life and ultimately from some simian non-human ancestor?
I do not believe that Man is an unspecial creation. I do not believe that Man came from anything but God. I never said that I did, nor did I ever say anything that could be taken otherwise.
>>Zacheeus asked Jesus “How can a man be born again? Can he enter his mother’s womb a second time?” This was a perfectly valid question to a very literal taking of Jesus’s own words.
>>But is that what Jesus was talking about?
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>No.
*sigh* - And you still refuse to see that ‘day’ might be used in the figurative sense (”back in my day”)? Again, I ask, if time is not uniform, and might change its ‘speed’, as we see from relativity... if the original Hebrew word describing God’s creating the Heavens is to stretch... then considering that the edges must travel at a faster pace then the center and therefore have different time ‘speeds’ {time dilation} then how can the literal-reading time-descriptive word “day” describe that reality adequately? (”I don’t know.” IS a valid answer, and the most honest one to questions like “When is Jesus coming back?”)
>>Answer this: How can there be a meaningful conversation when you have already condemned me?
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>You called me a fool. I called you nothing.
Then stop acting/being one, for Christ’s sake! (And your actions have worse than called me ‘anything’, you have treated me like a simpleton, one lacking understanding and reason, whilst refusing to [use] reason yourself.) You are perpetuating a shame to Christ. Hell, if I wasn’t a Christian, I’d be seriously offended by your failure to dialog, by your failure to address my questions, and by your manner of taking what I say as something completely different than what I did say... and before you take THAT as a “sign of weak faith” let me say my faith is NOT dependent on you, but on the living Son of God, Jesus Christ.
But you did not answer the question. Let me repeat the question (It is a "Yes/No" Question:
If I might ask, have you allegorized the creation story sufficiently in your mind that you believe (based on the evidence of dry bones), that man was not a special creation of God, but that he descended from lower forms of life and ultimately from some simian non-human ancestor?
Yes or No.
You are perpetuating a shame to Christ.
By believing his words?
Hell, if I wasnt a Christian, Id be seriously offended by your failure to dialog, by your failure to address my questions, and by your manner of taking what I say as something completely different than what I did say.
It appears to me that you ARE seriously offended. BTW I don't believe I have failed to answer any of your questions. You may correct me if I am wrong. Further, I don't see where you have answered mine.
and before you take THAT as a sign of weak faith let me say my faith is NOT dependent on you, but on the living Son of God, Jesus Christ.
Did I accuse you of having a "weak faith"? I don't believe so. You have accused me of many things on this thread; of not having faith, of being a fool, of perpetuating a shame upon Christ. All I am doing is expressing my belief in his words. I honestly don't understand your visceral reaction.
If I say God created the Heavens and the Earth and all that is within them in 6 days am I perpetuating a Shame upon Christ. Weren't those the same words that were inscribed by God on the Ten Commandments? Was God perpetuating a shame upon Christ by inscribing them?