Posted on 03/25/2009 9:59:20 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
....In a crisis, we often have a duty to restate the obvious. And Easter is a good time for Christians to remind their doctrinally confused brethren of the obvious truths of Christianity.
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How about the Catholic Church?
Have you noticed how this old world is changing. More than ever now, life needs rearranging. It would be heavenly if we only remember this: The simple things in life are around us everywhere. Right outside your door, why keep reaching for the moon. That hello neighborhood smile will be coming back in style, so will wedding rings and the simple things in life.
So rather than brush up on basic Christian teachings, you’re advocating that we brush up on Shirley Temple movies?
Damn, you’re good! You’re really good!
Did you see Curly Top too? It was aired on Christmas day on TCM and I recorded it for my young daughter and watched it enough to memorize those words.
You’re good!
I also like the message. The simple things in life are around us everywhere.
What say you?
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It’s okay for bubbabasher to be in error.
Doubt it, but your slur is noted. Proably they are getting mixed up about the Trinity. Catholics are usually accused by the bornagains of worshipping Mary, not Joseph as well (unless this is a new one).
I want to know how Alex Murphy recognized the lyrics to a song in a Shirley Temple movie if he’s so up on the New Testament?
All kidding aside, Jesus did say that many would be called but few would be chosen and just being in a church doesn’t mean you are granted eternal life. Christianity is hard and it’s not the easy and cheap grace that much of modern protestantism has become. No offense to protestantism, of course.
The misguided protestants just need to remember that the simple things in life are around them everywhere.
Not sure how that would enter into it, since Catholics don't believe in three gods, but say (every Sunday, quite clearly) "I believe in one God [cue rest of Nicene creed]"
The "Christians worship Father, Mother, Son, three gods" stuff comes straight from the Koran. It's not clear that Mohammed ever met a real Christian, Catholic or otherwise.
(The only Christians he might possibly have met were Nestorians, who had been out of communion with Rome for 300 years or so, but it's not clear that he ever met any of them, either.)
In other words, they "got that idea" from Mohammed's fertile imagination based on mangled hearsay about Christian beliefs, probably received third- or fourth- hand.
Note the equating of "veneration" with "worship" by Cardinal Antonio Bacci, in his devotional material. Although "worship" is further parsed into dulia and latria (veneration vs adoration), Cardinal Bacci specifically refers to the act of bowing to, and the act of praying to saints as worship...
The worship of the Saints is an act of veneration (dulia), not of adoration (latria), which can be given only to God. It is wrong to imagine, as many Protestants do, that by praying to and venerating the Saints we subtract something from the homage we owe to God...From the thread The Veneration and Imitation of the Saints
Dictionary.com gives both “venerate” and “adore” as synonyms for “worship,” and in fact the word itself comes from the OE meaning “to render honor to”. So your point is, I take it, that the original poster used the word “worship” carelessly, when he should have used “adore”?
I don't usually use Dictionary.com to define Catholic terms of worship, so I'll have to take your word that it carries an imprimatur.
So your point is, I take it, that the original poster used the word “worship” carelessly, when he should have used “adore”?
Are you suggesting that Cardinal Bacci is FReeping, three decades after his death?
Alex, you wrote:
” Note the equating of “veneration” with “worship” by Cardinal Antonio Bacci, in his devotional material.”
He’s not equating it. Worship is to show honor to someone. He is defining what KIND OF HONOR.
It's difficult to make people understand that God's Holy days are listed in the bible. It's interesting too that Jesus says to observe his death on Passover yet this message is obscured by traditional Christianity's insistence on creating its own holidays.
Chuck Colson is dipping his toe into the Tiber. If you rediscover "core teachings," you may just rediscover the core institution which promulgated those teachings and which has authority to speak to these issues. Perhaps we should have a pool on when Chuck will take the plunge.
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