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To: topcat54

I can articulate it from a biblical standpoint, and have done so earlier in the thread.

There is nothing wrong with a Creed as long as it is understood that that Creed is not authoritative absent the Scriptural backing.

I have stated earlier that if a Statement of Faith is just a way to pull together various BIBLICAL doctrines in a convenient way - I have no problem with it. It’s when it becomes more than that that I have a problem with it.

The scholars you have quoted, and you yourself, appear to raise it higher than just an organizational device for what is already found in Scripture. I have a problem with that, and I believe the Reformers would too. They were not creating new Scripture. They were articulating what was already there.


405 posted on 03/30/2009 9:34:12 AM PDT by Blogger (Pray and Prepare)
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To: Blogger; raynearhood
There is nothing wrong with a Creed as long as it is understood that that Creed is not authoritative absent the Scriptural backing.

Is your personal creed authoritative in your life? IOW, do you take action in your personal life based on what you believe the Bible teaches? E.g., suppose you believe the Bible teaches that abstinence from beverage alcohol is required by believers. Do you then believe it would be a sin for you to drink beverage alcohol socially? Would you believe it is a sin for everyone?

Is that view of alcohol not a personal creed? Would it hold have authority in your life, admitting that you think it is based on the Word of God.

406 posted on 03/30/2009 10:10:28 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: Blogger; raynearhood
Let me see if I can understand your position now:

Again, as long as the Creed is Scriptural, I have no issue in using it to organize key doctrines of the Christian faith. It is when that creed or confession or statement of faith is elevated as some authoritative document that there is an issue.

There is nothing wrong with a Creed as long as it is understood that that Creed is not authoritative absent the Scriptural backing.

The first statement seems to indicate that creeds and confession have no authoritative place in the Church, but the second seems to offer that possibility insofar as they are true to Scripture (which, BTW, is the position of the Reformation Churches).

Suppose a person comes to your confession-less church and says, “I believe the Bible teaches that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three manifestations of God,” and that person can point to a few verses that he says demonstrate that view. What does a confession-less church do with the person that does justice to his liberty of conscience?

407 posted on 03/30/2009 10:30:19 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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