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To: Blogger; enat; Ping-Pong; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
You're playing semantics here.

No, I was merely pointing out how you were misrepresenting the imagery in Romans 11.

The olive tree does not belong to Israel. Israel simply enjoyed the "fatness of the olive tree". When the wild branches are grafted in they enjoy the same. When unbelieving Israel was broken off, the blessing was removed from them. But they can be grafted in again, by faith in Jesus Christ.

You are trying to make a brand new Tree come about due to the church's inclusion in the grafting.

You keep using that confusing and unbiblical phrase, "the church's inclusion". Nowhere does it say "the church" was grafted into the olive tree. It says gentiles, wild branches, were. You are clearly twisting the text to try to make it say something it doesn't say.

283 posted on 03/26/2009 6:43:17 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Naysayers" laughing at a futurist is not scoffing at God.)
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To: topcat54; Blogger; enat; raynearhood; Lee N. Field
The olive tree does not belong to Israel. Israel simply enjoyed the "fatness of the olive tree". When the wild branches are grafted in they enjoy the same. When unbelieving Israel was broken off, the blessing was removed from them. But they can be grafted in again, by faith in Jesus Christ.

We are the olive trees. Those of Israel are the olive trees and the candlesticks. Israel is us.

Zechariah 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.

4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, "What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?"

4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, "What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?"

4:14 Then said he, "These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth."

Christ is The Golden Candlestick and the olive trees are the two witnesses of end times. Believers, those that witness for Him, are olive trees.

290 posted on 03/27/2009 4:53:50 AM PDT by Ping-Pong
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