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To: Godzilla

Don’t forget Benson’s speech on the “fundamentals of following the prophet”, one of them is “the prophet does NOT have to say ‘thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture.”


259 posted on 03/25/2009 8:31:55 AM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Don’t forget Benson’s speech on the “fundamentals of following the prophet”, one of them is “the prophet does NOT have to say ‘thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture.”

"Therefore the most important reading we can do is any of the words of the prophet contained each month in our Church Magazines. Our instructions about what we should do for each six months are found in the General Conference addresses which are printed in the Church magazine."

"Beware of those who would set up the dead prophets against the living prophets, for the living prophets always take precedence."

"Fourth: The prophet will never lead the Church astray.
President Wilford Woodruff stated:
“I say to Israel, the Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as president of the Church to lead you astray. It is not in the program. It is not in the mind of God.” (The Discourses of Wilford Woodruff, pp. 212–13.)

They apparently forgot Young's Adam-God doctrine, or Smith's polygamy. Pratt changing the book of Moses to reflect the JST/IV instead of Smith's origional. Mormon god is a god of confusion.

265 posted on 03/25/2009 8:55:05 AM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: reaganaut
Don’t forget Benson’s speech on the “fundamentals of following the prophet”, one of them is “the prophet does NOT have to say ‘thus saith the Lord’ to give us scripture.”

Sixth: The prophet does not have to say “Thus saith the Lord” to give us scripture.
Sometimes there are those who argue about words. They might say the prophet gave us counsel but that we are not obliged to follow it unless he says it is a commandment. But the Lord says of the Prophet, “Thou shalt give heed unto all his words and commandments which he shall give unto you.” (D&C 21:4.)
And speaking of taking counsel from the prophet, in D&C 108:1, the Lord states:
“Verily thus saith the Lord unto you, my servant Lyman: Your sins are forgiven you, because you have obeyed my voice in coming up hither this morning to receive counsel of him whom I have appointed.”
Said Brigham Young, “I have never yet preached a sermon and sent it out to the children of men, that they may not call scripture.” (Journal of Discourses, 13:95.)

Benson is clearly lying - he is citing JOD which EVERYONE knows isn't canon. And Young was just expressing his opinion about Adam-God doctrine (until 1976). Brigham Young places the honest mormons on the horns of a dilemma. If they claim Young as a true prophet, he must also accept his Adam-God teaching since a true prophet must have a correct theology concerning God (Deut. 13:1-3). If Young's teaching is not accepted, then the mormon must conclude that Brigham Young was a false prophet. Mormons can't have it both ways.

270 posted on 03/25/2009 9:24:19 AM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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