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To: Petronski
“We preach Christ crucified...

No debate about that. I do, too. But, I don't keep a reminder of the death. The EMPTY cross signals victory. Your crucifix shows Him in defeat! It is an idol.

Johm 4: 19"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. 20Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."

21Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

25The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."

26Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."

110 posted on 03/26/2009 7:57:07 PM PDT by WVKayaker (Coersion, after all, merely captures man. Freedom captivates him. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: WVKayaker
But, I don't keep a reminder of the death.

The crucifix shows Christ dying, the essence of Paul's charge to "preach Christ crucified."

The EMPTY cross signals victory. Your crucifix shows Him in defeat!

That is completely upside-down. His crucifixion is not defeat. Christ came to earth to be crucified and die for our sins. Paul quite wisely admonishes us to remember that.

It is an idol.

Ridiculous. It is the most perfect non-verbal way to "preach Christ crucified."

126 posted on 03/27/2009 3:06:40 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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To: WVKayaker

The empty cross is like saying “Yeah yeah Jesus you died for our sins, whatever....skip to the end!”


127 posted on 03/27/2009 3:07:31 AM PDT by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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