To: editor-surveyor
You apparently hold the belief that the face meaning of a Biblical allegory can contain a false message
The "face meaning" of Acts 10 is exactly what?
1. What was the voice from heaven?
2. Did Peter eat?
3. What did PETER say the vision meant? He says it TWICE for folks that can't read "face meaning."
Do you think maybe that when Peter had this vision he remembered this little oddly similar account?
"...And you shall eat it as barley cakes; and bake it using fuel of human waste in their sight." Then the L-RD said, "So shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, where I will drive them." So I said, "Ah, L-RD G-d! Indeed I have never defiled myself from my youth till now; I have never eaten what died of itself or was torn by beasts, nor has abominable flesh ever come into my mouth. Then He said to me, "See, I am giving you cow dung instead of human waste, and you shall prepare your bread over it." Ezekiel 4:12-15
Eating bread baked over human waste is also forbidden. So, apparently "voices from heaven" should not be obeyed if they tell you to do something that goes against the WRITTEN WORD.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8
If the vision had been a reality, and if Peter had done as instructed and eaten against the clear and obvious commandments of G-d, then he would have to deal with this passage:
"If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass... you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the L-RD your G-d is testing you to know whether you love the L-RD your G-d with all your heart and with all your soul... You shall walk after the L-RD your G-d and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. Deuteronomy 13:1, 3-4
To: safisoft
Peter’s explanation was not the face meaning, but the parallel meaning.
When Peter answered the Lord, he spoke of eating, or more correctly, of not eating, and the Lord corrected: “And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.”
God cleansed the beasts, and Peter knew that, or should have known it, since Paul obviously did, but had not accepted the cleansing of the Gentiles, because it had become an important part of Hebrew culture to regard themselves as superior. (This superiority was never scriptural) Christ’s payment on the cross had placed men at liberty, so the eating of the previously forbidden flesh should not have given him any pause.
Peter also knew that it was the Lord speaking, and his reply was disobedient; he put the tradition of men above a spoken cammand of the Lord.
The passages you presented are about punishment as a nation; Acts 10 is about opening the ministry to a nation.
167 posted on
03/17/2009 8:38:17 PM PDT by
editor-surveyor
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