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To: NYer; tiki; irishjuggler

Because the abuse came after the Council.


19 posted on 03/11/2009 3:11:57 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

“Because the abuse came after the Council.”

I don’t know why I can’t let this go but I had more time to think on the way to and from Catechism.

I don’t think anyone but the most liberal Catholic would argue that there weren’t abuses. But there were abuses in the Church when Martin Luther decided that he was the one to fix them and outside of the Church to boot.

He told them what he thought needed to be addressed and when they didn’t listen to him immediately, he had the pride and arrogance to think that he could fix it himself and I’m sure he justified every move he made to himself. He just wanted a holy church and priesthood, he had a lofty goal but he thought he could fix it instead of waiting on the Holy Spirit and believing the promise of Christ. Martin Luther’s pride made him believe that he was doing the right thing.

No doubt, God can take any schism and use it for His plan, and good can come out of this schism if they are willing to return to the Body of the Church, submit themselves to their bishops and the pope. Is that happening yet? Do you perceive that it will happen? I still have my doubts because pride is a strong emotion and unless the Holy Spirit is very strong and they are inclined to listen, I don’t see a lot of these congregations returning to the fold. I hope I’m wrong. But history is, unfortunately, on my side.


26 posted on 03/11/2009 7:56:31 PM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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