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To: fproy2222
You are still missing the point.

Hardy was not in his junior year (or another other point in his tenure there) but had finished his academic requirements and indeed the degree had been issued.

Any school that awards degrees, public or private, has outside authorities to deal with.

beyond that you also question the contract, they too have a contract to award his degree, and he had completed said work and even walked BEFORE they gave final disposition.

You mention cheating and stealing etc. Interesting you say that, because if instead of this calender issue etc. he had indeed cheated and was then awarded a degree, it could be withdrawn by the institution (indeed any public or private) since the degree was obtained fraudulently.

If you had actually read any of my post this thread, and I know you and yours either don't or for whatever reason seem to blow by what they say, you know I heap no praise on Mr. Hardy, in fact the opposite.

The degree was awarded, it is very possible a public court could decide in his favor since he did complete the academic requirement. If it had been mid process, before his hours had ben finished there would be no room for such issues. That is not what happened in this case.

There indeed was another case, one I am aware of and indeed discussed with on of the principles yesterday due to this matter, it occurred at another institution under similar settings. It was determined to award the degree due to the fact the hours were complete and the degree was issued. The attorneys had made it clear there were definite possibilities that questions from the state and the court in general could be a factor. However the student had earned honors that were stripped was denied any post graduate support or recommendations for future graduate level work as well as a few other things including something with a scholarship.

Even private schools do not function in a vacuum no matter our faith. We can argue points of belief, but in the world we inhabit there are other things that can influence us.

67 posted on 03/07/2009 2:44:01 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: ejonesie22

I agree it is a matter of timing. The calendar came out and was known about before he finished his hours.

I don’t know Chad Hardy nor do I know what his sins are. And I am not going to speculate.

BYU should taken action much sooner.


94 posted on 03/07/2009 6:49:56 PM PST by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: ejonesie22
You are still missing the point.

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I am not missing YOUR point, the problem is, it is nothing more then a smokescreen to continue your jehad against the LDS Church.

The real point is weather or not the student should be kept to his word, or should he be able to get his degree by cheating on the “exam” that goes along with putting your word on the line.

As a boss, would you want a worker that lies to get his degree?

142 posted on 03/08/2009 7:51:27 AM PDT by fproy2222
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