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To: AnAmericanMother

What a difference a generation makes ...

The fact that Mahony is a crackpot is not in dispute. However, the equation of a “traditionalist” view of liturgy with Christian faith still seems to me to be stretched past its limits, given (for example) that 40% of “traditionalist” Catholics voted for Obama, according to an article in the most recent “First Things.”

But neither is that here nor there, since, when the persecution comes, it will sort out everyone who has the appearance of religion without the reality, whether his “appearance” is enthusiastic or rigorously formal.


40 posted on 03/03/2009 7:32:35 AM PST by Tax-chick ("There are more enjoyable ways of going to Hell." ~ St. Bernard)
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To: Tax-chick
I really have my doubts about those polls . . . . I mean, Nancy Pelosi calls herself a fervent, devout, traditional Catholic. And I can call myself the Queen of Romania, especially to a pollster I don't know from Adam.

But wrenching myself back to the point . . . I hope I made clear that there is a world of difference between outward signs and faith. I know some pretty liturgically loose people (a particular Franciscan priest comes to mind) who are faithful believers and will no doubt be way ahead of me at the Judgment.

On the other hand, outward signs can be a stumbling block (all the cheering and waving) or they can assist in worship. BXVI is hardly a 'traditionalist' in the pejorative sense, but he has written very lucidly about the need for serious thinking about whether certain liturgical customs interfere with the act of worship.

41 posted on 03/03/2009 7:50:42 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse - TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Tax-chick
However, the equation of a “traditionalist” view of liturgy with Christian faith still seems to me to be stretched past its limits, given (for example) that 40% of “traditionalist” Catholics voted for Obama, according to an article in the most recent “First Things.”

I haven't read the article (can you link or post it?), but I'm curious how the poll defined "traditionalist Catholic".

46 posted on 03/03/2009 9:25:22 AM PST by Campion
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