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Obama's Choice of Sebelius Heats Up the Pro-life Battle
Inside Catholic ^ | March 2, 2009 | Deal Hudson

Posted on 03/02/2009 8:12:13 AM PST by NYer

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To: stuartcr

Yes-—The Lord is amazing-—he gives us free will. He gives us chance after chance to do right.


21 posted on 03/02/2009 1:19:52 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! + In this sign Conquer! +)
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To: NYer
Yeah, well, Sen. Brownback is supporting her.

"Brownback, who sought the GOP presidential nomination and is one of the leading anti-abortion voices in the Senate, recently released a statement with Roberts, congratulating Sebelius and expressing an eagerness to work with their fellow Kansan on health issues."

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22 posted on 03/02/2009 2:04:16 PM PST by It's me
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Yes, and He knows how, what and when we will choose, even before He creates us.


23 posted on 03/02/2009 3:27:37 PM PST by stuartcr (If the end doesn't justify the means...why have different means?)
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To: the invisib1e hand
assumptions that the Church doesn't address women about abortion,

Almost without exception, every homily I have heard at every mass in every parish I have been in or visited as far back as I can remember has been ambiguous fluff.

Times that abortion has even been mentioned in a homily in 50 years? Perhaps 20 times.

I'm looking forward to the grand Catholic funeral mass when Ted Kennedy croaks- where all the famous abortion Catholics receive Communion. You know, just like the Papal Mass.

Talk is cheap, and there isn't really all that much talk, all things considered.

24 posted on 03/02/2009 8:38:16 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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Almost without exception, every homily I have heard...

The Church is alot bigger than The Homily. I find it impossible to believe that if you were as concerned about this issue as you appear to be, you could have failed to grasp this.

The Church is being the Church in the Marketplace (outside the Chapel), and the first poster complains that it's "getting the government to do its job;" I guess the on the planet you were raised on, the only place the Church is allowed to be the Church is in the Chapel.

Which, as I said, is the recipe for marginalization, irrelevence, and the ruin of a nation.

To wit...

25 posted on 03/03/2009 7:58:04 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (right makes might.)
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To: the invisib1e hand
The Church is alot bigger than The Homily.

But the homily is a reflection of the larger organization. What formation are the priests receiving in the seminaries? Obviously the seminaries are not turning out priests with a passion for the Truth. More like meek little lambs afraid to hurt anyone's feelings.

The Church is being the Church in the Marketplace

In the Marketplace I see famous Catholics espousing the butchery of innocents on their way to Papal Mass Communion. In the Marketplace I see a Catholic funeral Mass preceding the scattering of Kennedy's ashes at sea. In the Marketplace I see the Vagina Monologues being performed at Catholic Universities.

There are practically no serious shepherds in America. Only Men Without Chests.

26 posted on 03/03/2009 8:33:10 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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There are practically no serious shepherds in America. Only Men Without Chests.

better get some cheese for that whine.

And the thesis perfectly contradicts the whole "the bishops are getting the goverment to do their work" blather: the Shepherds are holding their flocks accountable. Some of them, at least.

27 posted on 03/03/2009 8:37:51 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (right makes might.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Not whining, just observing. Facing the truth is preferable to wishful thinking.

A couple shepherds here and are laudable in their attempts to hold their flocks accountable, but they are the exception. The vast majority have neither the inclination nor courage to do so, thereby undermining the efforts of the others.


28 posted on 03/03/2009 8:43:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (I want Obama to fail.)
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