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To: Houghton M.

The SSPX would have you believe that VII is responible for everything wrong in the Church when there was rot way before VII. In fact, I think VII might have been responsible for exposing the rot and bringing it into the light so that it could be dealt with.

Those people who interpreted VII wrongly were already subversive, they just thought that VII allowed them to become less subtle.

All in all many actions and interpretations were incorrect but many, many, many Catholics have been encouraged to actually know their faith and their theology rather than just going through the motions.

If you look at your own life you will see that when times are bad, when you are confused and afraid, and you see no other way out than to rely on the goodness of God is when you have grown in your soul, VII has been such a challenge for many faithful Catholics. It is up to us to help steer the Church by actively living our faith. Asking priests to be true to the faith and helping them to be true to the faith. And most of all, to support the Church with prayer because we can’t do a thing without God. It is He who will quicken the heart and heal the soul, through His Church.


8 posted on 02/28/2009 3:53:51 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki

It is not the Council but that which followed. The degradation of the Liturgy, the casting away of all tradition, the experimental Mass; moral relativism, seamless garments were all concurrent with the post Vatican II period. I believe it is the malaise of this period against which SSPX rebelled.


13 posted on 02/28/2009 7:04:03 PM PST by steve8714
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To: tiki

It is not the Council but that which followed. The degradation of the Liturgy, the casting away of all tradition, the experimental Mass; moral relativism, seamless garments were all concurrent with the post Vatican II period. I believe it is the malaise of this period against which SSPX rebelled.


14 posted on 02/28/2009 7:05:08 PM PST by steve8714
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To: tiki

That’s probably the best post I’ve ever read concerning VII.

Kudos.


22 posted on 02/28/2009 8:40:58 PM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: tiki

“All in all many actions and interpretations were incorrect but many, many, many Catholics have been encouraged to actually know their faith and their theology rather than just going through the motions.”

Couldn’t agree with you more!

Mel


24 posted on 03/01/2009 1:25:30 AM PST by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
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To: tiki
All in all many actions and interpretations were incorrect but many, many, many Catholics have been encouraged to actually know their faith and their theology rather than just going through the motions.

Sure, many pre-V2 Catholics were "just going through the motions," but you know what? Going through the motions (and maybe just maybe getting a little out of it by accident) was better than not showing up at all. In 1965, 50% of all Catholic children in the U.S. were in Catholic schools. Now, it's 15%. In 1965, most U.S. Catholics got married in the Church; now most don't. Most attended Mass weekly; now most don't. The "Spirit of Vatican II" propagandists call this progress. As Judge Judy says, "Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining."
26 posted on 03/01/2009 1:36:04 AM PST by irishjuggler
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