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To: topcat54
In case you have not noticed, God doesn’t need to remove one people from the earth to reconcile. He is quite capable of doing both, as is evidenced from the entire NT when Jews and gentiles came together with the salvation of God to form one new man, the Church.

"one new man, the Church??? Yikes. I know that is what your English Bible says, but surely you know that ekklesia is not a new entity in Acts. Surely, you are well-enough trained in church tradition, and in the actual text to know that what you reference is tradition, as opposed to what the text actually says? Surely, you have read the LXX and know the word ekklesia is used to refer to the people of Israel. Surely, you know the word ekklesia is used by Stephen to refer to Israel? Surely, you know the word ekklesia is used by Jesus not "prophetically" in Matthew 16 (Calvinists hate prophecy don't you know), but rather was refering to His congregation - the people of Israel? Surely you know that Jesus says that "Salvation is of the Jews" and apart from Israel, you don't have a hope? Surely you know that Paul says the same thing - without hope, stranger to the covenants of promise...Surely, you know that "one new man" is the antenicean code phrase for "Gentiles only"?

Surely, you know all of that? Or are you still wearing Justin Martyr's anti-Israel glasses?
218 posted on 03/01/2009 5:24:14 PM PST by safisoft
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To: safisoft
"one new man, the Church??? Yikes. I know that is what your English Bible says, but surely you know that ekklesia is not a new entity in Acts.

Notice I said "new man" not new entity. I was quoting Paul in Ephesians 2. I'm well aware of the etymology of the word ekklesia and its reference to the old covenant assembly.

Church is ekklesia. The new man is Jews and Greeks on equal ground within the ekklesia (Gal. 3:28,29). This is the true commonwealth of Israel, the household of God. The NT distinctive is that race no longer playa any part in the makeup of the new covenant ekklesia.

Surely, you know all of that? Or are you still wearing Justin Martyr's anti-Israel glasses?

What part exactly did Justin get wrong?

219 posted on 03/01/2009 7:26:31 PM PST by topcat54
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