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The Day After Fat Tuesday [Ash Wednesday, Beginning of Lent]
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | February 21, 2009 | Matthew Warner

Posted on 02/22/2009 11:03:36 PM PST by Salvation

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1 posted on 02/22/2009 11:03:36 PM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

Thank you!


2 posted on 02/22/2009 11:22:44 PM PST by mckenzie7 ( mohammed = 666)
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To: Salvation

Silly Latins. Lent begins after Cheesefare, when there are snowball fights, blintzes and sleigh rides.

I’m not sure why the Latins go so crazy before a season where they still consume everything, except eat fish on Friday.


3 posted on 02/23/2009 3:43:00 AM PST by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: Salvation

Is it? We’re too tired to notice. Pseudo-Lent, when you sit in the rocker with your eyes closed and say, “Oh, just get yourselves some toast. Maybe I’ll buy groceries tomorrow.”


4 posted on 02/23/2009 4:03:02 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: Salvation

“As Catholics (and other Christians who practice Lent), we must partially blame ourselves for allowing this holy time of year to be overshadowed by a drunken, over-indulgent, high-jacking of our own celebration”

As someone who grew up near the NO area, “overshadowed” is a huge understatement.


5 posted on 02/23/2009 8:04:25 AM PST by Augustinian monk (When your going through hell, keep going - Winston Churchill)
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To: Augustinian monk; Salvation
we must partially blame ourselves for allowing this holy time of year to be overshadowed by a drunken, over-indulgent, high-jacking of our own celebration

Why must we? The author's welcome to blame himself, if it makes him feel better, but I have absolutely no responsibility for debauchery that became traditional, in some subcultures, long before I was born.

6 posted on 02/23/2009 8:13:42 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: cizinec

The article talks about the customs of Lent.

Fasting (only one full meal a day) is the in thing for all days during Lent — but obligatory on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday.

Abstinence from meat is in for all Fridays.

If the Catholics you know aren’t doing this, then they are probably CINOs or don’t know any better. Maybe you can inform them.


7 posted on 02/23/2009 9:10:21 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Augustinian monk

I agree with you. They party, but then they don’t turn toward penance and God during Lent.

Modern world syndrome, huh?


8 posted on 02/23/2009 9:11:48 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cizinec; Tax-chick
Fasting and Abstinence during Lent -- EWTN

The Holy Season of Lent
Fast and Abstinence.

It is a traditional doctrine of Christian spirituality that a constituent part of repentance, of turning away from sin and back to God, includes some form of penance, without which the Christian is unlikely to remain on the narrow path and be saved (Jer. 18:11, 25:5; Ez.  18:30, 33:11-15; Joel 2:12; Mt. 3:2; Mt. 4:17; Acts 2:38). Christ Himself said that His disciples would fast once He had departed (Lk. 5:35). The general law of penance, therefore, is part of the law of God for man.

The Church has specified certain forms of penance, both to ensure that the Catholic will do something, as required by divine law, while making it easy for Catholics to fulfill the obligation. Thus, the 1983 Code of Canon Law specifies the obligations of Latin Rite Catholics [Eastern Rite Catholics have their own penitential practices as specified by the Code of Canons for the Eastern Churches].

Canon 1250  All Fridays through the year and the time of Lent are penitential days and times throughout the entire Church.

Canon 1251  Abstinence from eating meat or another food according to the prescriptions of the conference of bishops is to be observed on Fridays throughout the year unless they are solemnities; abstinence and fast are to be observed on Ash Wednesday and on the Friday of the Passion and Death of Our Lord Jesus Christ. 

Canon 1252  All persons who have completed their fourteenth year are bound by the law of abstinence; all adults are bound by the law of fast up to the beginning of their sixtieth year. Nevertheless, pastors and parents are to see to it that minors who are not bound by the law of fast and abstinence are educated in an authentic sense of penance.

Can. 1253  It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

The Church, therefore, has two forms of official penitential practices - three if the Eucharistic fast before Communion is included.

Abstinence  The law of abstinence requires a Catholic 14 years of age until death to abstain from eating meat on Fridays in honor of the Passion of Jesus on Good Friday. Meat is considered to be the flesh and organs of mammals and fowl. Moral theologians have traditionally considered this also to forbid soups or gravies made from them. Salt and freshwater species of fish, amphibians, reptiles and shellfish are permitted, as are animal derived products such as margarine and gelatin which do not have any meat taste.

On the Fridays outside of Lent the U.S. bishops conference obtained the permission of the Holy See for Catholics in the US to substitute a penitential, or even a charitable, practice of their own choosing. Since this was not stated as binding under pain of sin, not to do so on a single occasion would not in itself be sinful. However, since penance is a divine command, the general refusal to do penance is certainly gravely sinful. For most people the easiest way to consistently fulfill this command is the traditional one, to abstain from meat on all Fridays of the year which are not liturgical solemnities. When solemnities, such as the Annunciation, Assumption, All Saints etc. fall on a Friday, we neither abstain or fast. 

During Lent abstinence from meat on Fridays is obligatory in the United States as elsewhere, and it is sinful not to observe this discipline without a serious reason (physical labor, pregnancy, sickness etc.).

Fasting The law of fasting requires a Catholic from the 18th Birthday [Canon 97] to the 59th Birthday [i.e. the beginning of the 60th year, a year which will be completed on the 60th birthday] to reduce the amount of food eaten from normal. The Church defines this as one meal a day, and two smaller meals which if added together would not exceed the main meal in quantity. Such fasting is obligatory on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday. The fast is broken by eating between meals and by drinks which could be considered food (milk shakes, but not milk). Alcoholic beverages do not break the fast; however, they seem contrary to the spirit of doing penance.

Those who are excused from fast or abstinence Besides those outside the age limits, those of unsound mind, the sick, the frail, pregnant or nursing women according to need for meat or nourishment,  manual laborers according to need, guests at a meal who cannot excuse themselves without giving great offense or causing enmity and other situations of moral or physical impossibility to observe the penitential discipline.

Aside from these minimum penitential requirements Catholics are encouraged to impose some personal penance on themselves at other times. It could be modeled after abstinence and fasting. A person could, for example, multiply the number of days they abstain. Some people give up meat entirely for religious motives (as opposed to those who give it up for health or other motives). Some religious orders, as a penance, never eat meat. Similarly, one could multiply the number of days that one fasted. The early Church had a practice of a Wednesday and Saturday fast. This fast could be the same as the Church's law (one main meal and two smaller ones) or stricter, even bread and water. Such freely chosen fasting could also consist in giving up something one enjoys - candy, soft drinks, smoking, that cocktail before supper, and so on. This is left to the individual.

One final consideration. Before all else we are obliged to perform the duties of our state in life. When considering stricter practices than the norm, it is prudent to discuss the matter with one's confessor or director. Any deprivation that would seriously hinder us in carrying out our work, as students, employees or parents would be contrary to the will of God.

----   Colin B. Donovan, STL


9 posted on 02/23/2009 9:14:47 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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**On the Fridays outside of Lent the U.S. bishops conference obtained the permission of the Holy See for Catholics in the US to substitute a penitential, or even a charitable, practice of their own choosing. Since this was not stated as binding under pain of sin, not to do so on a single occasion would not in itself be sinful. However, since penance is a divine command, the general refusal to do penance is certainly gravely sinful.**
 
I wonder how may U. S. Catholics actually do the act of pentitence to substitute for abstaining on Fridays during the entire year?? 

10 posted on 02/23/2009 9:18:23 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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11 posted on 02/23/2009 9:20:15 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Honestly I had no idea that Mardi Gras had anything to do with Ash Wednesday. It just meant Mardi Gras-massive party day. It is amazing how off course the world can get when it kicks God out.


12 posted on 02/23/2009 9:45:07 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Salvation

I have no idea. The good part about the Friday abstention rule, imo, is that it was simple and obvious, easy to plan for. You didn’t have to ask yourself, “Is it penitential to make a big, labor-intensive, multi-item meal for the family when what I really want is toast?” I guess it is. We’d fast every Friday, if it were up to me, because I’m ready to die by the end of the week ... but I’ve still got nine other people and the dog demanding tons of food.


13 posted on 02/23/2009 9:46:00 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Global leadership means never having to say you're sorry." ~IBD)
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To: Salvation
I wonder how may U. S. Catholics actually do the act of pentitence to substitute for abstaining on Fridays during the entire year??

Guilty as charged :-)

14 posted on 02/23/2009 9:53:58 AM PST by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: GOP Poet

I remember my mom using up all the bacon fat and lard before Lent, so that the cooking could be done with other things.

Anything meat or meat products was out.

BTW, don’t tell the world that Mardi Gras has anything to do with Ash Wednesday. New Orleans would lose so much money — LOL!


15 posted on 02/23/2009 10:03:19 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pegleg

So just do the abstinence from meat on Friday and take care of it all?


16 posted on 02/23/2009 10:05:38 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

LOL. Great point! It was always fish sticks on Friday for our big family of gigantic proportions.


17 posted on 02/23/2009 10:12:04 AM PST by GOP Poet
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To: Salvation
So just do the abstinence from meat on Friday and take care of it all?

Ooops, sorry for the senior moment. I observe meatless Friday's all year long.

18 posted on 02/23/2009 10:13:10 AM PST by pegleg (Lies will seek you out, but the truth must be sought.)
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To: Salvation
The early Church, in its wisdom, evolved many of the pagan festivals and holidays existing during that time and turned them into Christian celebrations instead. This was because it was more difficult to kill existing traditions and begin new ones than it was to just change the meaning of the existing traditions.

Meanwhile, Biblical holidays (Pesach, Purim, Ro'sh HaShanah, etc.) were abolished outright and their practice proscribed as heretical "Judaizing." Jewish holidays deny Chr*st, but pagan ones are the means of "appropriating salvation."

This is another area of traditional anti-Judaism that liberal Jewish anti-Catholics, with their hang-up on persecution and blind spot for theological liberalism, never seem to bring up.

19 posted on 02/23/2009 10:17:46 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Venatatta 'el-ha'aron 'et ha`edut 'asher 'etten 'eleykha.)
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To: Salvation

Interesting post.

Thanks..


20 posted on 02/23/2009 11:15:28 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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