I understood what you were saying...You were trying to avoid confirming or denying that Heaven was a real place or a state of mind...
But no matter...Your pope already answered the question...
Mind reading, false, and defamatory.
For the record, I assert that Heaven is not merely a state of the human mind. The quote from a man who is no longer my pope, as you falsely characterize him, does not assert that heaven is merely a state of the human mind.
Of course, what "mind" signifies is not a question I would want to raise having seen what happens to attempts at reasonable discussion.
I do note that I responded to you, took what you said at face value, and addressed your contention that we teach an identity between heaven and the Church as she now is. That contention of yours was the beginning of the exchange. But you rapidly changed the subject, making me and my motives the subject, while I was asking for an explanation (not a series of instances) of what you meant by "place", "real" and "physical", which were terms you used in making your assertion.
You did not address the distinction I pointed out which showed how the Pope was not making an identity between heaven and the Church as she now is. What you did do was ask me if I wrote some of the Harry Potter books and characterize what I wrote as doublespeak.
Then you claimed to read my mind and reasserted your original contention without additional argument, making no progress in demonstrating the truth of the contention.
This confirms my already considered opinion that some Protestants have little idea what they mean by the words they use and have little notion of meaningful conversation as distinct from debate, and that they would rather engage in pretending to disprove something nobody thinks than in the pursuit of the truth.
I am learning what Isaiah means when he writes of people taking refuge in lies, and learning to leave such people to God's mercy, since any activity which might lead to a mutual uncovering or discernment of some truth is promptly buried in mounds of personal attacks and sophistries.