"God Became Man So That Man Might Become A God." (Ecumentical)

Joy Peace Hope ^ | St. Athanasius

[restornu]

"God Became Man So That Man Might Become A God." St. Athanasius

... when the intellect has been perfected, it unites wholly with God and is illumined by divine light, and the most hidden mysteries are revealed to it. Then it truly learns where wisdom and power lie... While it is still fighting against the passions it cannot as yet enjoy these things... But once the battle is over and it is found worthy of spiritual gifts, then it becomes wholly luminous, powerfully energized by grace and rooted in the contemplation of spiritual realities. A person in whom this happens is not attached to the things of this world but has passed from death to life." St. Thalassios, "On Love, Self-control and Life in accordance with the Intellect" Philokalia (Vol. 2)", p. 355)

'Can a man take fire into his bosom, and his clothes not be burned?' (Prov. 6:27) says the wise Solomon. And I say: can he, who has in his heart the Divine fire of the Holy Spirit burning naked, not be set on fire, not shine and glitter and not take on the radiance of the Deity in the degree of his purification and penetration by fire? For penetration by fire follows upon purification of the heart, and again purification of the heart follows upon penetration by fire, that is, inasmuch as the heart is purified, so it receives Divine grace, and again inasmuch as it receives grace, so it is purified. When this is completed (that is, purification of heart and acquisition of grace have attained their fullness and perfection), through grace a man becomes wholly a god." St. Simeon the New Theologian (Practical and Theological Precepts no. 94, Writings from the Philokalia on Prayer of the Heart; Faber and Faber pgs. 118-199)

[shineon]

if you read it in context he was saying that he took all of his orders from above, not himself. you guys are mixed up!

The Christian faith has always maintained that Jesus was both Lord and God. Both human and divine. The phrase "Son of God" refers to Jesus humanity. The phrase "Father" refers to Jesus divinity. For unto us a son is born ... and his name shall be called "The Everlasting Father", "The Mighty God"

[fabian]

That is simply false...in the early days of Christianity before this big lie was introduced, the faithful clearly saw Jesus as the humbled servant of God... and He spoke that truth too, if you would just get out of your head and use your common sense you would see that as self evident.

[sonic109]

“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, ...

[spunkets]

"God is the only God and Jesus did nothing of his own will."

Ridiculous!

John 2:19
"Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."

John 6:40
"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

John 6:44
"No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day."

Jesus raised both Himself and all the others. He did that of His own will, since Free will is what He was given as it was to all the others. John 10:30
"I and the Father are one."

Note the commonality of personhood in both the Father and the Son is the Holy Spirit. That person is the same in both cases, because Jesus chose to make that happen. The draw of hte Father, in John 6:44, is the attaction to the person of the Holy Spirit seen in the person of Jesus.

[fabian]

your pointed scriptures actually make my case for me, but you cannot see it because you have intellectualized christianity. You are making the aweful mistake of learning truth rather than allowing God to show you. If you would like to get out of that trap, take a look at fhu.com. Roy has helped so many people to come to real faith. Some in christianity hate him and judge him , but they are lost too.

[spunkets]

"You are making the aweful mistake of learning truth rather than allowing God to show you. If you would like to get out of that trap, take a look at fhu.com. Roy has helped so many people to come to real faith"

Truth is truth. Is God's name Roy?

[fabian]

you don’t know truth yet, you just have an intellectual substitute. Beware of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. You are having a feast on it and it’s not getting you very far.

[shineon]

The fables of fabian.