'I Will Not Travel to Auschwitz' (Interview with SSPX Bishop Richard Williamson)

Der Spiegel ^ | February 9, 2009

[NYer]

Bishop Richard Williamson's denial of the Holocaust has done serious damage to the Catholic Church. In an e-mail and fax exchange with SPIEGEL, the ultra-conservative bishop says that he is willing to "review the historical evidence."

SPIEGEL: The Vatican is demanding that you retract your denial of the Holocaust, and it is threatening to not allow you to resume your activities as a bishop. How will you react?

Williamson: Throughout my life, I have always sought the truth. That is why I converted to Catholicism and became a priest. And now I can only say something, the truth of which I am convinced. Because I realize that there are many honest and intelligent people who think differently, I must now review the historical evidence once again. I said the same thing in my interview with Swedish television: Historical evidence is at issue, not emotions. And if I find this evidence, I will correct myself. But that will take time.

SPIEGEL: How can an educated Catholic deny the Holocaust?

Williamson: I addressed the subject in the 1980s. I had read various writings at the time. I cited the Leuchter report (eds. note: a debunked theory produced in the 1980s claiming erroneously that the Nazi gas chambers were technically impractical) in the interview, and it seemed plausible to me. Now I am told that it has been scientifically refuted. I plan now to look into it.

SPIEGEL: You could travel to Auschwitz yourself.

Williamson: No, I will not travel to Auschwitz. I've ordered the book by Jean-Claude Pressac. It's called "Auschwitz: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers." A printout is now being sent to me, and I will read it and study it.

[annalex]

You denial of Stalin’s atrocities — not in whole, but in their substantial part — is in your 68. I am willing to accept from you a retraction, or clarification, or give you time to study, because as a Catholic Christian I do not accuse people based on hastily made comments, and I am always ready to defend anyone so accused, especially, as is the case with Williamson, by the leftwing lynch mob.

[Petronski]

You denial of Stalin’s atrocities — not in whole, but in their substantial part — is in your 68. You denial of Stalin’s atrocities — not in whole, but in their substantial part — is in your 68.

Such is your false claim.

[Pyro7480]

Of all the people that I never thought I would see fight each other, it would be you two.

[Uri’el-2012]

You are, of course, free to create whatever religion you wish and call yourself whatever you wish.

You are not free however to define Judaism and Christianity, only your own religion.

Mazol Tov !

I worship YHvH and His salvation.
Psalm 78:35

You are of cause free to reject Him.

And follow a syncretic religion created
at Nicea by the Pagan: Constantine

Have a wonderful journey.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Pyro7480]

You’re spouting the flip-side of what the DaVinci Code argues, and it’s just as ludicrous.

[Petronski]

As I said upthread, the phrase “you think you know someone” has never meant more to me than now.

[Petronski]

And follow a syncretic religion created at Nicea by the Pagan: Constantine

I believe D-fendr is a Catholic, and thus will do no such thing.

[Uri’el-2012]

You’re spouting the flip-side of what the DaVinci Code argues, and it’s just as ludicrous.

I am discussing historical facts pertaining to the council of Nicea.

One of it's key points was the rejection of YHvH commanded Feast of Passover.

The council documents replace Passover with pagan feast of easter.

The Roman church impugns the Holy Word of Elohim.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Pyro7480]

How is Easter pagan? Just because the name is such in English? In most other languages, it's a variation on the word Pascha, which means Passover, as Our Lord Jesus Christ IS our Passover, and therefore, there is no longer any need to observe this feast of the old covenant.

[Uri’el-2012]

How is Easter pagan? Just because the name is such in English? In most other languages, it's a variation on the word Pascha, which means Passover, as Our Lord Jesus Christ IS our Passover, and therefore, there is no longer any need to observe this feast of the old covenant.

If would read the documents from Nicea,
you would know that the date commanded by YHvH is rejected
and another date is created.

Again reading documents from Nicea,
all things pertaining to Yah'shua are rejected.

Thus a syncretic religion was created.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Petronski]

Easter celebrates the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, the second person of the Holy Trinity.

Calling that pagan is laughable.

[Petronski]

Again reading documents from Nicea, all things pertaining to [Jesus] are rejected.

Ludicrous.

[annalex]

I am not fighting anyone.

[Uri’el-2012]

are => is

do => does

[Uri’el-2012]

How is Easter pagan? Just because the name is such in English? In most other languages, it's a variation on the word Pascha, which means Passover, as Our Lord Jesus Christ IS our Passover,

Whatever some people think was the purpose of the Council of Nicea,
the following is what the Roman Pontiff who called and supervised
the council thought was the most important for the world to know.

ON THE KEEPING OF EASTER.

From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council.
(Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20.)

When the question relative to the sacred festival of Easter arose, it was
universally thought that it would be convenient that all should keep the
feast on one day; for what could be more beautiful and more desirable,
than to see this festival, through which we receive the hope of
immortality, celebrated by all with one accord, and in the same
manner? It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the
holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the
Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and
whose minds were blinded. In rejecting their custom,(1) we may
transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter,
which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the
present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not,
therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour
has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and
more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and
consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest
brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the
Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without
their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the
right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led
by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them? They
do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness
and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two
passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly
in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most
certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one
year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still
be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such
wicked people[the Jews]. Besides, consider well, that in such an
important matter, and on a subject of such great solemnity, there ought
not to be any division. Our Saviour has left us only one festal day of
our redemption, that is to say, of his holy passion, and he desired[to
establish] only one Catholic Church. Think, then, how unseemly it is,
that on the same day some should be fasting whilst others are seated
at a banquet; and that after Easter, some should be rejoicing at feasts,
whilst others are still observing a strict fast. For this reason, a Divine
Providence wills that this custom should be rectified and regulated in a
uniform way; and everyone, I hope, will agree upon this point. As, on
the one hand, it is our duty not to have anything in common with the
murderers of our Lord; and as, on the other, the custom now followed
by the Churches of the West, of the South, and of
the North, and by some of those of the East, is the most acceptable, it
has appeared good to all; and I have been guarantee for your consent,
that you would accept it with joy, as it is followed at Rome, in Africa,
in all Italy, Egypt, Spain, Gaul, Britain, Libya, in all Achaia, and in the
dioceses of Asia, of Pontus, and Cilicia. You should consider not only
that the number of churches in these provinces make a majority, but
also that it is right to demand what our reason approves, and that we
should have nothing in common with the Jews. To sum up in few
words: By the unanimous judgment of all, it has been decided that the
most holy festival of Easter should be everywhere celebrated on one
and the same day, and it is not seemly that in so holy a thing there
should be any division. As this is the state of the case, accept joyfully
the divine favour, and this truly divine command; for all which takes
place in assemblies of the bishops ought to be regarded as proceeding
from the will of God. Make known to your brethren what has been
decreed, keep this most holy day according to the prescribed mode; we
can thus celebrate this holy Easter day at the same time, if it is granted
me, as I desire, to unite myself with you; we can rejoice together,
seeing that the divine power has made use of our instrumentality for
destroying the evil designs of the devil, and thus causing faith, peace,
and unity to flourish amongst us. May God graciously protect you, my
beloved brethren.

from DOCUMENTS FROM THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA [THE FIRST ECUMENICAL COUNCIL] A.D. 325

This is the Decree from the Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world.

Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire

He had issued an Edict making Sunday the day of rest

In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine
declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:

"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest,
and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture
may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day
is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment
for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."

Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were
to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath.

They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[D-fendr]

Do you believe Jesus is God?

[Pyro7480]

There you go again, claiming something to be true that’s not. Constantine was NOT the first pontiff.

[Uri’el-2012]

There you go again, claiming something to be true that’s not. Constantine was NOT the first pontiff.

I do not believe I stated that !

I believe you are putting words in my mouth.

I believe you are prevaricating.

Do you need to go to confession ?

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[Pyro7480]

Then why did you post: "This is the Decree from the Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world. Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire."?

And don't presume to tell me to go to Confession, when you don't even believe in it! It could be a simple mistake.