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Theologian Speaks Out: Obama For Pope
Religion Dispatches ^ | February 9, 2009 | Rosemary Ganley

Posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:09 AM PST by nickcarraway

World-known theologian Hans Kung, ever a sharp thorn in the side of the Vatican, imagines what it would be like if Obama were in the Vatican instead of the White House.

Who better at this moment to challenge Pope Benedict’s recent un-excommunication of four right-wing prelates than another 81-year-old?

The recent papal edict re-enfolding Bishop Richard Williamson, a British holocaust denier and misogynist, has offended Jews, set interfaith relations back fifty years, repudiated Vatican II’s own views, and left the 40 or so women recently excommunicated because of their illicit ordinations breathless with indignation.

It has also has provoked a sharp response in a German newspaper, one that is being quickly sent around the world on the internet. Its writer is the eminent professor of ecumenical theology at Tubingen University, where he continues to teach eager classes, although he’s not permitted by Rome to teach as an official Catholic theologian.

It is just one of the paradoxes in the story of modern Catholic thought, and in the personal life of Rev. Hans Kung. He is, and has been since 1954, a Catholic priest. When he travels, he stays in the various rectories of Catholic parishes, hearing the confessions of the faithful, as he told us in Toronto in 2002, “as much as I am able.”

With his easy charm, impressive intellect, and clipped accent, Hans Kung, ever a sharp thorn in the Vatican, strides once more onto the ecclesial stage. The world-known Swiss Roman Catholic priest and theologian, who served as a peritus or expert at the Council (1962-65), he shared this responsibility with his German colleague, Josef Ratzinger, then a progressive thinker. How their paths would diverge.

To get right to the point, Kung in his article on February 3, wished Barack Obama were Pope. “The mood in the church is oppressive, reforms are paralyzed, and the church in crisis,” he says. “Benedict is unteachable in matters of birth control and abortion, arrogant and without transparency and restrictive of freedom and human rights.”

For Kung, Benedict should act as Obama has done, declaring a crisis, identifying the problems, proclaiming a vision of hope, revitalizing ecumenism, gathering competent colleagues of either gender, and using the power of his executive office to issue decrees (unhindered by such institutions as a democratically-elected Congress or a Supreme Court.)

But no, “the Pope is reorienting himself backward, inspired by the ideal of the medieval church, looking toward the Council of 1870, not the one of 1965.”

Can the Roman Church, he asks, give birth to an episcopacy which does not conceal its manifest problems, theologians not afraid to speak out and a climate to encourage women leaders? Kung is playful: “Yes, we can,” he writes.

Progressives are delighted that Kung has spoken out. He manages to preserve a shred of Catholic credibility in the modern world. He enjoys the respect of other religions because of his tireless work developing a statement of a global ethic.

My long experience of his thought and personality began by stumbling on his 1971 book Infallibility?: An Inquiry. Short, sharp and readable, it was an account of the 1871 meeting of bishops which endorsed papal ambition by approving the notion of infallibility in matters of faith and morals. In this day, “creeping infallibilism” has enlarged its scope to include almost all papal pronouncements, to the profound detriment of ecumenical relations, freedom of thought and dissent, and even freedom itself to believe or belong. The book rather blew my mind.

That was in 1971.

Then life took me to Tanzania for the next three years, and there, a personal health crisis emerged. It was solved by African skill in a tropical hospital called Muhimbili, in Dar es Salaam. When I faced this trying moment, I wanted to be reading, not devotionals, but Hans Kung’s bracing On Being a Christian. To my amazement, into my three-bedded room, under mosquito netting, side by side with my two young Muslim co-patients, came my surgeon, who picked up the book and said to me “I am reading this man too.”

So we have the spectacle of two mighty and aged adversaries duking it out, offering deeply different models of ecclesiology. Not much more can be done to silence Kung. Humiliation can’t mean much to a man of 81 years. But his analysis offers a picture of costly resistance, tinged with wit and a kind of hopeless hope.

I’d call that faithfulness extraordinaire


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: hanskung; obama; popebenedict
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1 posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:09 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Salvation; NYer

Ping


2 posted on 02/10/2009 11:30:26 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway

I John 5:19


3 posted on 02/10/2009 11:31:20 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway

You know you are over the target when you are receiving flak.


4 posted on 02/10/2009 11:32:52 AM PST by frogjerk (It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish - Mother Teresa)
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To: nickcarraway

Never heard of him.


5 posted on 02/10/2009 11:33:21 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: nickcarraway; LambChop_NY
By the grace of God, Benedict is Pope and Kung is not.

Fr. Hans may wish to reflect on God's choice but, some how, I doubt he will.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

6 posted on 02/10/2009 11:33:59 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: nickcarraway

Muslims cannot be Pope.


7 posted on 02/10/2009 11:35:55 AM PST by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: MeanWestTexan

He is just a few months younger than the Pope, and the two were colleagues in the 60s. Fr. Kung got the Pope his job as a professor at Tubingen. But since 1968 they have diverged.


8 posted on 02/10/2009 11:40:38 AM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: nickcarraway

Looking in from the outside (not RC here), this guy sounds like a putz:

“Benedict is unteachable in matters of birth control and abortion, . . . .”

“Unteachable” -— curious Bill Ayers vibe to that.


9 posted on 02/10/2009 11:43:46 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: Frantzie

>Muslims cannot be Pope.

You, sir, are right. In fact, a poor little protestant like me has MORE of a chance of being the pope than a muslim.


10 posted on 02/10/2009 11:46:19 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nickcarraway

As dumb as Williamson is, Kung is far worse. He is a mole, trying to destroy the Catholic Church.


11 posted on 02/10/2009 11:47:06 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners.)
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To: nickcarraway

This taught me all I needed to know about Kung.


12 posted on 02/10/2009 11:51:15 AM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Whis is liberal speak for “We can’t get him to give in.”


13 posted on 02/10/2009 11:57:09 AM PST by Niuhuru (Fine, here's my gun, but let me give you the bullets first. I'll send them to you through the barrel)
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To: nickcarraway

Gee, how exciting and ecumenical this would be and what an honor for the world to have Obama be everything for us. I wonder if we could add Secretary General and Grand Iman as well? Just simplify everything to have Obama being able to speak ex Cathedra from Mecca and having the lion dine with the lamb. At least it should either get him out of Washington or the Vatican moved to DC. Now what is next?


14 posted on 02/10/2009 11:58:59 AM PST by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
this guy sounds like a putz:

Calling Hans Kung a putz is an insult to putz.

15 posted on 02/10/2009 12:01:35 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: nickcarraway
Those who care nothing for apostolic teaching authority venerate Kung as a great thinker.

If it were Kung who was leading the RCC, we'd have the membership of the ECUSA, with its flailing and lost theology bleeding its members into more truthful religious venues.

If nothing else, Kung is evidence of a crisis that cannot be solved by men and of which Obama simply may be another symptom.

16 posted on 02/10/2009 12:08:26 PM PST by TheGeezer
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To: ArrogantBustard

Well, the meanest word I know is “mamzer” (it’s like the bastard child of incest or similar couplings).

That work?


17 posted on 02/10/2009 12:13:14 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

It works better than you realize ... his theology is the bastard child of misunderstood Christianity and Marxism.


18 posted on 02/10/2009 12:22:05 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t see the Roman Catholic Church as Christian in any except a sociological sense — but, good grief, what an idiot Kung is.

How can you respect a man who voluntarily associates himself with an openly, historically, rigidly hierarchical church, and then tries to trash the hierarchy?

All sorts of colossally-important things reflect poorly on Romanism. This doesn’t. It reflects poorly on Kung.

Sheesh.


19 posted on 02/10/2009 12:26:18 PM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

“I don’t see the Roman Catholic Church as Christian in any except a sociological sense”

>huh? (Not RC here, but, if you said what I think you said, come on.)


20 posted on 02/10/2009 12:32:50 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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