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To: enat; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; ksen

“God brings about all human decisions, even sinful ones:”

Now, wait a minute...

You are telling me that you believe God predestined, preplanned, foreordained, plotted out and caused to happen the SINS you committed yesterday?

If that’s what your theology brings you to, you need to drop your theology and get back to the plain, simple teachings of the Bible.

Look at this...

“Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:”

neither
tempteth
he
any
man.

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One of my main arguments against Calvinism is that it, if taken to it’s logical conclusion, it should lead people to agnosticism.

Why agnosticism? Because a Calvinist must conclude that there is nothing you can truly know about God. You can not trust that what He tells you to do is actually what He wants you to do. In the Calvinist universe, Got predestines people to the very things He has commanded them not to do.

You know the Bible tells us not to do certain evil things. Yet you state that you believe God has predestine you to do those things.

This is logically consistent with your theology, but it is not consistent with the Bible.


56 posted on 01/29/2009 12:47:18 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Yet you state that you believe God has predestine you to do those things.

What! you mean to say, that you didn't know that God was just a dirty old man? :^)

57 posted on 01/29/2009 1:33:55 PM PST by WhatNot
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To: PetroniusMaximus
This is logically consistent with your theology, but it is not consistent with the Bible.

If that's what you think then may I humbly suggest you reread your bible.

Let me also point you to the third chapter of the Westminster Confession of Faith for a better explanation of God's Decree along with the Scriptures used to justify their statements.

58 posted on 01/29/2009 1:46:36 PM PST by ksen (Don't steal. The government hates the competition. - sign on Ron Paul's desk)
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To: PetroniusMaximus; Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; wmfights; ksen

“You know the Bible tells us not to do certain evil things. Yet you state that you believe God has predestine you to do those things.”

Did God cause Joseph’s brothers to sell him into slavery?

Did cause David to number the tribes of Israel?

Did God plan from eternity to cause the Jews and the Romans to kill Jesus?

Did God harden Pharoah’s heart?

See, the problem with the interpretation of the James passage is in the above cases God is the causal agent, not the tempting agent. God permits satan to tempt or ones own fallen nature to tempt; He does not tempt, He purposes and acts to bring about His ends.


62 posted on 01/29/2009 3:21:22 PM PST by enat
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