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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Although I agree there are terrible abuses in some parishes which need to be addressed, surely you aren't attempting to draw some false equivocation between liturgical abuses and the schism of consecrating four bishops in defiance of the Pope? Are you part of the SSPX?

No, I am not part of the SSPX, and only very occasionally even assist at a Traditional Latin Mass. I am a member of a ordinary parish which leans a bit conservative, perhaps. What I am saying is that the substance of disobedience at many American parishes goes far beyond liturgical abuse; there is widespread disobedience of papal and magisterial authority in at least some areas (e.g., how many persons involved in parish ministries or even chancery employees disregard moral teachings on contraception, homosexual unions or the male priesthood). That is why I place it in the same category as the SSPX disobedience. It may actually be more serious, considering the subject matter. I am challenging people to think about it in the same light.

FYI, the SSPX is not necessarily "in schism"; that is why I used the term that I used. They are certainly in imperfect communion with the Pope, however, which is still a very serious problem.

29 posted on 01/13/2009 6:07:40 PM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: B Knotts
That is why I place it in the same category as the SSPX disobedience. It may actually be more serious, considering the subject matter. I am challenging people to think about it in the same light.

As a former Protestant, I feel that I have a better understand the true costs of schism and a clearer view of its destructive nature than most of the cradle Catholics I know, particular more that these duplicitous and self-deceiving Lefebvrists and their defenders. They do far more damage than they know, to themselves, to others, and to Christ's True Church. The heartfelt plea of Pope John Paul II which I copied into my post #23 is really all they and their defenders should need to see.

31 posted on 01/13/2009 6:42:34 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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