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To: Ronaldus Magnus
Do you deny that the SSPX is in schism?

I'm not in any affiliated with the SSPX, but consider:

"The bishops, priests and faithful of the Society of St Pius X are not schismatics. It is Archbishop Lefebrve who has undertaken an illicit Episcopal consecration and therefore performed a schismatic act. It is for this reason that the Bishops consecrated by him have been suspended and excommunicated. The priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics." - Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, February 8, 2007, in the German Die Tagespost.
17 posted on 01/13/2009 4:34:22 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: irishjuggler
The priests and faithful of the Society have not been excommunicated. They are not heretics.

I don't know anything about that cardinal or his authority on the topic, but regardless the statement is irrelevant. The question isn't whether the priests and lay people are heretics, but whether they are schismatics. I personally believe that anyone who would deny that the SSPX is in schism is either a fool or a liar, and this is exactly why their arguments and equivocations are always so weak. I am not interested in discussing this with them, however, since I would rather spend my ecumenical efforts in conversation with more intellectually honest protestants.

As Pope John Paul II said to the priests and laity of the SSPX:


23 posted on 01/13/2009 5:07:47 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: irishjuggler
The SSPX and its adherents (not casual Mass attendees thrilling themselves by the naughtiness of their attendance at SSPX cult Masses) were declared schismatic and excommunicated by POPE John Paul II. That ruling was never reversed by JP II nor by B-XVI. Castrillon de Hoyos simply lacks the authority to countermand papal rulings. No one in genuine authority ever called the SSPXers heretics. Castrillon de Hoyos is simply raising a strawman on that subject.

Mr. Mershon's career as a journalist continues to plunge so that he is now relegated to the pages of The Remnant. Next stop will probably be the Angelus (house organ of SSPX).

When Tridentine Masses are again generally available at Churches in communion with their territorial bishops and with the Holy See, the SSPX cult will claim credit but SSPX and its persistent rebellion against papal authority has been the stumbling block in the way of a return to genuine Tradition. Anyone tempted to regard SSPX as Catholic should review the vituperation against the Roman Catholic Church that spews from the vile mouths of Bishop de Mallerais and of Bishop Williamson.

Bell, book, candle, stake, ropes and fire. Sayonara to the cult.

34 posted on 01/13/2009 10:50:54 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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