Posted on 01/13/2009 6:50:29 AM PST by NYer
MAVERICK priest Father Peter Kennedy says he will lead a breakaway congregation if Brisbane's catholic Archbishop forces him to leave St Mary's Church.
There are fears that exclusion from the historic South Brisbane property will be the final act in a long-running dispute that has reached the Vatican. The dispute has attracted national and international attention because it represents the battle between conservative and less traditional forces within the Catholic Church.
There are more Roman Catholics in Australia than any other religious group. Each week, St Mary's attracts large congregations while many more orthodox Catholic parishes struggle to fill pews. In a rare and exclusive interview, Father Kennedy said he was determined to carry on. "The reality is that, if we are excluded from this church, the Trades and Labor Council have already offered us their place just down the road," he said. "I will continue. Our community will continue down there. We get 800 to 900 people coming every week. It's a vibrant, alive mass with people from all over the city."
St Mary's is known for its unconventional Catholic practices - allowing women to preach, blessing homosexual couples and recognising with ritual the traditional sovereignty of the indigenous people of the area. The latest round in the battle was sparked by a complaint direct to the Vatican in August from an aggrieved church-goer.
Brisbane Archbishop John Bathersby accused the parish of operating outside the accepted practices of the Roman Catholic Church and encouraged Father Kennedy to fall in line or face closure. The parishioners responded to the accusations but - in a follow-up letter to Father Kennedy, dated December 22 - Archbishop Bathersby said: "St Mary's has not yet adequately given proof of its communion with the Archdiocese of Brisbane and the Roman Catholic Church."
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SHibboleth, you shuckerzh! Take tha'!
I knew you’d understand. :)
Nah, I still have a couple of bottles. I'll worry tomorrow.
Always put off til tomorrow what you can bear to face today. That’s my motto. :)
Just make sure you cover the principle of subsidiarity — if it makes sense as you subside at the bottom of a bottle of Mogen David, it’s probably not a good idea . . . .
Yeah, well Hish Holinesh also said Sholidariddy in Shenteshimush Annush.
Shibboleth ish what I shay! The fthree eshes!
Actually I got this assignment because I mentioned to the DRE that I knew ZIP about Catholic Social Doctrine. Pretty cool, huh? Now I'm out buying those little copies of the relevant encyclicals so I can scribble in 'em. I'm about halfway through Centessimus, and I read Rerum Novarum. Trying to load data into my subconscious so I can think about it for a week or so before I start writing.
The Mogen David helps immeasurably.
So now I'm going to take my ancient copy of Documents from Vat II in one hand and the last bottle of Mad Dog in the other ....
See you guys later.
That should read “what you *can’t* bear to face today”.
Later!
(Entering the weepy stage, after failing to find any Gileadites to tussle with.)
LOL!
Gonna need something stronger than coffee around here . . . < g >
It’s been quite a thread.
. . . a lot of folks call themselves Catholic and have no idea what they're saying. Or, even worse, they do.
Awwww, sometimes I’m not so bad! You are welcome.
You are saying that
IF
Candidate A says he will nuke every church and place of worship of whatever denomination or creed in the Western hemisphere, reducing most of the hemisphere to radioactive glass and killing hundreds of millions of born and unborn people
AND
Candidate B says he will pass laws enabling others to procure abortions, but otherwise will be indistinguishable from Ronald Reagan,
AND
Candidate A looks like he has a chance at winning,
THEN
It is a sin to vote for candidate B.
I say in such a case staying home would be going against the Church's teaching on protecting innocent life in a manner worse than voting for someone who would allow (not even require, merely allow) abortion.
The core of your objection and of your dissonance with the teaching of the Church is revealed in you "eye of the beholder" remark.
I think the questions of the morality of the Iraq War (as moral as some and far more moral than many) and universal health care (will impoverish the nation and draw down the quality of health care and lead to otherwise preventable deaths, thus immoral) can be determined. That some people will err in these questions and will err in general in their use of reason in no way implies that the questions are a matter of individual choice or that in formed reason, carefully applied is an essential element of conscience.
There are situations in which the virtue of prudence requires the acceptance of moral evil in order to prevent a greater moral evil.
Further, when I voted for McLame, I did not, in that act, say anything more than that I thought he would be not as bad for the country as the All-Compassionate Messiah. I did not condone his restrictions on Free political speech or his waffling on immigration. I merely said, "Of the two disasters, I think he is the lesser." The ability to use reason is what orders our concupiscent and irascible desires, and reason's offering and subjecting itself to the Divine Wisdom is an operation of grace. The eradication of reason and of the cardinal virtues is not required of Christians.
On the contrary, we are to seek God's grace and cooperate with His correcting and guiding our use of reason.
Abortion is a very grave evil. It is not the worst evil and certainly not the only grave evil. Where the rubber meets the road, hard choices must be made by responsible Catholic citizens.
Fortunately, this past election was not one that was all that difficult.
Let me get this straight: You think that blessing homosexual couples is okay or in general advocating the breaking or and contempt for Church teaching and law is fine, but voting for the lesser of two evils is always bad?
Thank you. My head hurts. Where’s the Alka Selzer?
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