8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears
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The absurd, irrational craziness of asserting that the I COR 13 “perfect” has come is easily trashed . . .
knowledge has not passed away—but as prophecied . . . has mushroomed and spread far and wide in increasing proportions, more and more broadly.
The only rational conclusion is that the PERFECT CHRIST has not come again bodily to set up His perfect Kingdom.
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Also The Psalmist says God’s Word is perfect . . . so the perfect was added to? So, now we have it MORE perfect?
Sounds like some of OThuga’s comrades being more equal than others. Animal Farm indeed.
"The only rational conclusion is that the PERFECT CHRIST has not come again bodily to set up His perfect Kingdom."
That is a rational conclusion. Not the only rational conclusion, but I admit that it is a rational conclusion.
I've discussed this kind of thing before. I don't deny the possibility of present day tongues, prophecy, etc... I explained my understanding of Scripture, but, as I indicated, I could be wrong. This is not a theological point that I am completely sold on. Why? Because deny the possibility denies the power of God. But, at the same time I can't get away from the understanding that I have.
"The absurd, irrational craziness of asserting that the I COR 13 “perfect” has come is easily trashed . . . knowledge has not passed away—but as prophecied . . . has mushroomed and spread far and wide in increasing proportions, more and more broadly."OK, three points, and I would really appreciate a response.
1. It's neither absurd nor irrational. Countless theologians have come to this interpretation over the past, at least hundreds of years. This isn't some new, wild and crazy off the wall interpretation of Scripture.
From
Jonathon Edwards (He's the namesake of Cindy Jacobs' prophesied anointing)
There is a twofold imperfect, and so a twofold perfect state of the Christian church. The church in its beginning, or in its first stage, before it was strongly established in the world, and settled in its New Testament state, and before the canon of Scripture was completed, was in an imperfect state — a state, as it were, of childhood, in comparison with what it was to be in its elder and later ages, when it should have reached its state of manhood, or of comparative earthly perfection. And so, again, this comparatively perfect church of Christ, so long as it remains in its militant state, that is, down to the end of time, will still be in an imperfect, and, as it were, in a childish state, in comparison with what it will be in its heavenly state, in which latter it is comparatively in its state of manhood or perfection.
Of course there are those that disagree with this interpretation, notably, John Calvin, RC Sproul, and John Piper...all three have interpreted the "perfect" as the perfected Church after the the Second Coming of Christ.
Anyhow, point is, I'm not sold on my understanding here, but it is an established theological understanding. And, as pointed out by other replies, modern day "prophets" who operate for a profit, are not able to convince me otherwise.
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"easily trashed . . . knowledge has not passed away" Unless, of course, the knowledge Paul is talking about is the knowledge of the apostles or the knowledge of the witnesses of the resurrection. This would be a terribly long exegesis to explain.
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but as prophecied . . . has mushroomed and spread far and wide in increasing proportions, more and more broadly.Where was this prophesied? I'm not doubting you, just direct me to what you're looking at.
"Also The Psalmist says God’s Word is perfect . . . so the perfect was added to? "
Ummm, no. All of God's Word is perfect. Every bit of God's Word before the Psalmist wrote that is perfect. Every bit of God's Word after the Psalmist wrote that is perfect.