Urgent Prophetic Word from Cindy Jacobs

Generals International ^ | 1/12/2009 | Generals International

[unspun]

Cindy Jacobs will be broadcasting an urgent prophetic word live on Tuesday, January 13 at 9:00 AM CST. Join us at generals.org tomorrow morning as we broadcast live on our front page.

[topcat54]

Recently he dreamt about a nuke in "a southern state, perhaps Florida."

Indigestion, most likely.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Quix]

I expect that it’s going to be

soooooooooooooooooooooo interesting . . . at least for a few seconds . . .

when The Lord alters a LOT of naysayer’s understandings of

REALITY! . . . FROM GOD’S PERSPECTIVE! LOL.

Should also be interesting how much of that

enlightenment

occurs before, in the midst of and after

they have reaped from their unfitting critical judgments of the bona fide servants of the Most High.

[Lee N. Field]

Recently he dreamt about a nuke in "a southern state, perhaps Florida."

Indigestion, most likely.

Beans

[raynearhood]

Has she been 100% correct,...?

If she has not she is not a prophet.

Jeremiah 28:6 "They see falsehood and lying divination who are saying, 'The LORD declares,' when the LORD has not sent them; yet they hope for the fulfillment of their word."

Have you? Has Elijah? John the Baptist? The apostle, Paul?

No. Yes, while prophesying. Yes, while prophesying. Yes, while scribing the inspired Word of God.

I pointed out one time in this most recent "prophecy" where she was wrong. Here's Biblical evidence of her error.

Psalm 121:3-5 He will not allow your foot to slip;
He who keeps you will not slumber.
Behold, He who keeps Israel
Will neither slumber nor sleep.
The LORD is your keeper;
The LORD is your shade on your right hand

She said God is asleep, and an awakening will wake Him up. She lied duriing her "prophecy." She intentionally misrepresented Scripture to prove her point. The Psalm she referenced:

Psalm 44:20-25
If we had forgotten the name of our God
Or extended our hands to a strange god,
Would not God find this out?
For He knows the secrets of the heart.
But for Your sake we are killed all day long;
We are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.
Arouse Yourself, why do You sleep, O Lord?
Awake, do not reject us forever.
Why do You hide Your face
And forget our affliction and our oppression?

Cindy's words: "Like in Psalm 44, God will arise." OK, three big problems with her bit about the anointing and her reference to this Psalm.

Problem 1: The author of the Psalm was talking about how the chosen of God felt when they reject God. They felt like God was asleep or rejecting them because they were suffering due to their disobedience. In order for them to "awaken" God, they would need to call on His name, thus repenting of their disobedience. NOT what Cindy said. She said that there would be economic terrorism, and at the same time God would pour out an anointing that would begin a Great Awakening. That awakening - WHICH WAS STARTED BY GOD - would wake up God... like in Psalm 44. Where's the disobedience of His chosen? Where's the feeling of abandonment by His people? Do God's people feel abandoned or do they take comfort in the inspired word of God through Paul: "But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, so that the surpassing greatness of the power will be of God and not from ourselves; we are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not despairing; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; always carrying about in the body the dying of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body."?

Problem 2: God doesn't "arise" in Psalm 44 (as if He ever sleeps anyhow). Israel is crying out for Him to wake up, but he doesn't. So, if God is going to "arise" like in Psalm 44, does that mean that His people will cry out and cry out and that's it? Is that the Great awakening?

Problem 3: GOD DOESN'T SLEEP OR SLUMBER!!! Her point is either a contradiction of Scripture or Scripture is a contradiction of Scripture.

And how did Paul exhort readers in I Corinthians, about prophecy and prophesying?

Ahhh, see, now you are either going off subject to avoid a direct answer to Lee. N. Field, or this was the point you were trying to make in the first place. Why the round about way of getting there? Why not just out with it? Oh, well. I don't speak for Lee N. Field, but I will go ahead and answer your question. Paul said, "desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy." He also said, "And God has appointed in the church, first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, administrations, various kinds of tongues." And he said, "Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things."

So, then the question is, has the perfect come? Or what is the perfect? Perhaps it is the completed word of God? When the Scriptures were completed there was no more need for tongues... they were a sign for edification and witness to the unbeliever, particularly the Jewish unbeliever. When the Scriptures were completed, knowledge was done away with... that is the apostles one on one, face to face, knowledge of Christ. (Seems fitting that John, the last living apostle, wrote Revelation in his old age). AND, to complete the Scriptures were completed, Jesus, through John warned "testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book..."

SOOOO, what do we do know? Follow the words of Paul perhaps? "When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things." Maybe learn the words of Peter? "like newborn babies, long for the pure milk of the word, so that by it you may grow in respect to salvation if you have tasted the kindness of the Lord." How do we grow with respect to our salvation? Prophets? Tongues? Or the unchanging Word of God? ONLY the unchanging Word of God! Growth in regards to salvation is NEVER mentioned again.

from Quix: and smug religionists who are soooooooooooo convinced that they and their RELIGIOUS ASSUMPTIONS are...soooooooooooooooooooooooo 110% correct . . . . all the time . . . about everything . . .

Well, I've never said anything of the sort. I assure you, I have been wrong, many times. I'll be wrong again. But you still haven't answered my question: I say God never sleeps, Cindy Jacobs says there needs to be an awakening to wake Him up. Is she a liar, or am I?

[topcat54]

"Today, almost nine years after her prophecy there is no evidence that any of the things she foretold about Zimbabwe have any chance of coming to pass. There is no spiritual river, no army of anointed women, no reconciliation between black and white, no new factories, no productive farms or ranches and no treaties with other nations. In fact anyone with eyes can see that Zimbabwe is still under a curse.

"But false prophets like Jacobs are slick. They rarely prophesy dates and they usually give themselves an out as she has done here. “Although it looks like you are going backwards. I have a plan for you.” With this statement she can always say, just you wait, God is still working his plan. These words allow her to defer the fulfillment of her prophecy indefinitely."

Cindy Jacobs-False Prophet to the Nations

[Lee N. Field]

"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."

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If, someone stood up in one of your meetings, and proclaimed a "word from God" that the belief and practice of the church from the earliest days WRT the nature of God was wrong, how would you respond, and why?

(If you follow the link, you will find that this has happened, and many thousands in your circles were led into deep heresy.)

Should I spend a lot of time reading this, then should we join together and attack Billy Graham? Mother Theresa? Dietrich Bonhoeffer? Pope John Paul? C.S. Lewis?

Odd you should mention them. They each have their justified critics.

Lewis: Much of value, but a bit squishy (at least once) on the exclusivity of Christ. And, not a particularly high view of scripture (have you read his Reflections on the Psalms? Some "may" go back to David.)

Bonhoeffer -- a early 20th century Protestant liberal, who noone would remember now except for him doing very much the right thing and dying for it at the hands of the second most evil regime of the 20th century.

JP (I assume you mean JPII not JPI.) and Mother Theresa -- marioloters both. Hmmm. You should read the anathemas of Trent. If you're cool with them, jump the Tiber. Rome is more you home than here. And they're big on signs and wonders and new words from God.

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"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world."

[Quix]

Fascinating.

Shocking that anyone running around loose would still believe such a pile of irrational UNBiblical balderdash.

Amazing.

[unspun]

I may slog through some or all of this verbiage, but listen, Cindy Jacobs has lead a lot of people to pray. She has been in places providentially with her brothers and sisters in Christ. Results have followed.

I'm aware of the OT prophecy of God which states the mark of a true prophet. I am also aware that this was a test of God's prophesies and not some false idea of the perfection of the prophets.

We are in a new covenant, when we are to live by the heart (Sermon on the Mount) and not the skin and the law. As Jesus referred, even the least in the Kingdom of God is greater than the greatest OT prophet -- and it is demonstrable that we have a more intimate kind of relationship with the Holy Spirit, even when we don't hear right, even when we do.

[Quix]

INDEED.

I’ve written at some length about all that hereon . . . partly from the excellent book:

YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHECY.

However, those offspring of the religious leaders of 2000 years ago in Jerusalem seem to still have no ears to hear nor eyes to see.

So I try and minimize my time replying to their idiocies.

Holy Spirit is well able to speak to those who truly want to hear HIM.

Cindy OBVIOUSLY made her metaphor clear within 1-3 sentences. But noooooooooooooooooooooooo some stinking pile of self-righteousness seems compelled to label such folks outrageously.

Those addicted to throwing rocks have pastors. Would they hold their own pastors or the blokes in the mirror to such a standard . . . ?

Hardly, or, if they tried, The Lord would catch them up very short relatively quickly by showing them the rank hypocrisy of their assertions and attitudes.

Fascinating psychologically.

As dreadful as 2000 years ago spiritually.

[Cvengr]

I have found that when one is exposed to very vivid dreams, ones in which one becomes immediately sentient of other persons in the spiritual domain, and in which the dream communicates definite messages not from ourselves, then one must carefully discern the dream and situation.

In some such dreams, one might be faced with an event or situation which appears to not be possible to conceive without Divine providence of the dream.

A more accurate review of such vivid dreams shows that when we describe them, we may minimally state we obviously are cognizant that such dreams are supernatural. That they are definitely spiritual, and they communicate something to us.

The next quandry is typically as to how to receive such a dream and properly understand what has happened. We know that angels exist in His creation and we know there are not only elect angels, but also deceiving spirits and fallen angels. We are also warned about deception and counterfeit ploys which emanate from some in the angelic domain, some even used to test the fellowship of believers who have matured and remain maturing in righteousness, as well as to dislodge those who are not so stout hearted and devoted to Christ.

We also know that Scripture well discusses cursings and capital punishment for false prophets, while demanding true prophets report what they have been told or the consequences fall upon their head.

So how does one discern between false prophecy from true revelation from God?

We can take our cue from those whom we know were veritable in the past and how God provided for them and how they functioned. The Hebrews were no strangers to the issues of how to discern spiritual and supernatural events from those which were actual Prophecy. Consider in Deuteronomy 13, the consequence of a Prophet or dreamer of dreams who tells us something that does come to pass, but then tells us to worship other gods other than those of our fathers, i.e. Abraham.

The role of the Prophet in the Hebrew nation was extremely high because the King could not be established without first being pronounced by God through His Prophet at the time.

Human nature is no different today as it was several millennium ago regarding political intrigue. There was plenty of worldly incentive for some to claim falsely they were prophets, and even incentive in the angelic domain to mislead the Hebrew nation to accept deception en lieu of veritable communication from God.

Another test upon prophecy was to test to make sure it was compliant with the past revealed Word of God, because the Word of God doesn’t change. It is veritable.

So one simple test of supernaturally revealed communication, is to consider it, as we do everything else in the spiritual Christian life, by remaining in fellowship with God through faith in Christ. We consider it in light of what He has already provided to us. We understand it through faith in Him and by recalling Bible doctrine based upon the veracity of His Word.

This is why it is incredibly important to study Scripture, understand Bible doctrine, and in-breathe what the Word of God provides us into our soul, our thinking, where God the Holy Spirit makes it understood by our human spirit and by our soul.

Remember that in this Church Age, God the Son is sitting in Session at the right hand of the Father. He doesn’t return until His bride is complete. Until a believer has matured in his learning, through faith in Christ, by the work of God the Holy Spirit, most lessons will not be supernaturally revealed, unless we happened to not be at the right place at the right time. Having something supernaturally revealed by mechanisms other than those He provides to believers in this Church Age, might not be complementary as some might think, but rather a reaction to yearning to have their ears tickled.

First, place emphasis on remaining in fellowship with God through faith in Christ in all things at all times, always praying. Keep yur accounts short, returning to Him and confessing known and unknown sins frequently.

Secondly, study His Word, and let God the Holy Spirit do all the work in your thinking, mind, and heart, so that when faced with a spiritual testing, one has the problem solving devices which God provides His believers frm the sanctification processes of the Holy Spirit. That means we are thinking in terms of Bible doctrine continuously, through faith in Him. Not arrogantly, not piously, not legalistically, not flippantly, but by His Word inculcated in our souls and hearts to respond by His Will in all things.

If a person clams to be a prophet, then they will have dedicated an overwhelming amount of dedication to the Word of God, because it is veritable. If they do not, then be cautious of simply a supernatural experience with either demonic involvment, or possibly something purely independent of God’s Will. Most evil we experience doesn;t require demonic involvement, because man is plenty capable of thinking, acting, deciding independently of God in a fallen state without any help. In fact, even the Adversary is unable to keep man from sinning, so don’t leap too quickly for modern prophecy.

In many such reports, one might be able to conclude such experiences have supernatural involvement or are from a spiritual domain, but then again, the entire Christian life for the believer, a family member in His body, is to grow in the spiritual life by His Work. That means, we should be able to first evaluate any and every spiritual experience, not by how we might be titillated or how it might tickle our thinking, but by how we might be able to glorify the Son.

Everything God the Holy Spirit does for the believer in this Church Age glorifies the Son. For this reason, any report of the supernatural, must be perceived through His Word in how it glorifies Him. If it glorifies something other than Him, an imperative question should be why it wouldn’t glorify Him.

BTW, if exposed to something unknown and it serves His purpose in using His believers, He is quite able to make what is necessary to be known, immediately known to the believer. He doesn’t need our help. He doesn’t need a drawn out, supernatural wild ride in order to sanctify His believers who walk in fellowship with Him. He already has mechanisms through our faith in Him and study of Him in this age to sanctify our thinking.

If somebody is placing lots of faith in supernatural predictions, first place faith in Him and study His Word. If the believer hasn’t mastered the doctrines of the Bible, which have been very well studied for the past 2000 to 5000 years, then that believer might find more eternal rewards and crowns are awaiting him by getting back into fellowship with God and thinking all things through faith in Him, preparing himself through faith alone in Christ alone to be able to interpret any situation by what He provides in His Word.

Even if one receives Divine Revelation, it is even more glorified when understood through the light of His Word and even moreso glorified when His Word also disproves deception by a simple believer by faith alone in Christ alone.

[raynearhood]

uh-huh. You know, I have a number of good friends that are powerhouses of Bible study and theology. On the subject of the ending of gifts at the completion of Scriptures, some think that what I wrote is about correct (granted, I was speeding through it here), others don't agree with part or all of it. That's fine, I may be wrong, and I would be the first to admit that I am wrong if it could be shown to me how. But, in circles of great theologians, the same debate has been going on for years, so I doubt it will be resolved.

On thing all of us, including the great theologians, agree on, though, is the authority and infallibility of the Word of God. All agree, when discussing gifts, that the only way to determine if they are of God is to test them against Scripture.

Well, I did my part and tested Cindy Jacobs' "prophecy" against Scripture. Her "prophecy" failed the test.

You know, Quix, you typed what - eighteen words that last reply? In all of those words, the two I've been asking for still haven't been typed. Is Cindy Jacobs a liar or am I? All it takes is a "You are" or "She is." Feel free to copy/paste from this reply if you'd like.

[raynearhood]

Would they hold their own pastors or the blokes in the mirror to such a standard . . . ?

You mean a biblical standard? Yes, we do. And our pastor expects it, wants it even. As iron sharpens iron and all...

[Lee N. Field]

All it takes is a "You are" or "She is." Feel free to copy/paste from this reply if you'd like.

Straightforward answers to simple questions.

[mad_as_he$$]

"Some will need to be careful that they avoid finding themselves on the outside of God’s Kingdom."

Esecially those who claim to be speaking God's word in the latter days.

[mad_as_he$$]

You are clearly the liar since you do not have a website or TV show and do not ask for donations. /s

[Quix]

EXCELLENT POINTS,

WELL PUT.

I don’t think of a single quibble.

Thanks much.

[Quix]

No. Cindy’s not a liar.

I doubt you are.

Deal with it.

[Quix]

Nit-picking

is not holding to a Biblical standard.

[Quix]

Of course.