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To: XeniaSt
Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.

Did you not read what I sent you? I know it was a long piece of writing, but perhaps you should read it again. I addressed this issue very plain and clearly already. YES, GOD IS THE ROCK. BUT THIS DOES NOT EXCLUDE CHRIST'S AUTHORITY, AS THE ROCK, TO GRANT THIS SAME AUTHORITY TO PETER, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT HE DOES. SEE MATT. 16:19.

I also gave you a long list of Scripture which independently validates Peter's leadership status in the Church.

Then, there are the Church Fathers, who also validate the Catholic interpretation of this Scripture. THEIR CLAIMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH SCRIPTURE; YOURS ARE NOT. They live closer in time to Christ and His Apostles, and so have more authority than you. Period.

So, on what authority do you claim to be interpreting the genuine truth of this Biblical passage? My authority is the Church, which we claim, and can demonstrate, has an unbroken line of authority going back to Christ and His Apostles, who were commanded by Our Lord to teach His Word. So, I should listen to YOUR private interpretation instead? I don't think so. Not exactly a ringing endorsement of Sola Scriptura when you have to do backflips to explain away what is obvious in the Scripture in order to undermine the authority of the Church.
561 posted on 01/10/2009 12:04:07 PM PST by bdeaner (ue)
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To: bdeaner
XS>Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.

Then, there are the Church Fathers, who also validate the Catholic interpretation of this Scripture. THEIR CLAIMS ARE CONSISTENT WITH SCRIPTURE; YOURS ARE NOT. They live closer in time to Christ and His Apostles, and so have more authority than you. Period. So, on what authority do you claim to be interpreting the genuine truth of this Biblical passage? My authority is the Church,

561 posted on January 10, 2009 1:04:07 PM MST by bdeaner

The church fathers you speak of are Gentiles.

Many of them are anti-semites.

Should I take the word of someone who hates Yah'shua ?

The Roman church was started by Constantine, the pagan, in the fourth century.

My L-rd told me to:

Trust in the L-rd

2 Ki. 18:22, 30; 2 Chr. 20:20; Ps. 4:5; 31:6; 37:3; 40:3;
115:9ff; 125:1; Prov. 3:5; Isa. 26:4; 36:7, 15; Zeph. 3:2; Phil. 2:24

NAU Psalm 146:3 Do not trust in princes,
In mortal man, in whom there is no salvation.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
565 posted on 01/10/2009 12:42:45 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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