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To: annalex
The graven image prohibition was given to Jews. We are not Old Covenant Jews.

1Cor. 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

Regarding some perhaps worshipping Mary in the true sense of worship, well that is wrong.

From Vatican 2 (http://www.vatican.net/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html):

65. But while in the most holy Virgin the Church has already reached that perfection whereby she is without spot or wrinkle, the followers of Christ still strive to increase in holiness by conquering sin.(300) And so they turn their eyes to Mary who shines forth to the whole community of the elect as the model of virtues. Piously meditating on her and contemplating her in the light of the Word made man, the Church with reverence enters more intimately into the great mystery of the Incarnation and becomes more and more like her Spouse. For Mary, who since her entry into salvation history unites in herself and re-echoes the greatest teachings of the faith as she is proclaimed and venerated, calls the faithful to her Son and His sacrifice and to the love of the Father.

That reads like worship to me.

Happy New Year.

Thank you. And to you.

If there are any points in your post I should have adressed and I did not, please point that out.

No, that's fine. I don't have the time to ride the theological Mary-go-round. I just felt compelled to make a point, and now it's time for me to move on.

I have two bottles of champaigne inside of me, and so should you.

No thank you.
95 posted on 01/01/2009 2:55:58 AM PST by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc
1Cor. 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

Ah, that's different. Idolatry indeed is abominable to a Christian. The original discussion was about making images. This is not only not forbidden, but encouraged:

we all beholding the glory of the Lord with open face, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, as by the Spirit of the Lord. (2 Cor. 3:18)

before [your] eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you (Gal. 3:1)

she is proclaimed and venerated, calls the faithful to her Son and His sacrifice and to the love of the Father

This is showing Mary pointing to God and venerated for that reason; the distinction between veneration and worship is very clear here, as well as the reason to venerate saints.

103 posted on 01/01/2009 12:52:35 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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