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To: annalex

“People who know icons have a feel for what is strange and out of the loop, and what is canonical: wrong color or style of Our Lady’s garment, wrong facial type, wrong posture. However, they do not treat these as lawyers, rather they would say “I’ve never seen it done like that”.”

Alex is correct. There are no canons as we usually use the term, to do with the writing of icons. But there are traditions which have near the force of dogmatic canons. And we do know when something isn’t right. The responses however can be such as “That’s not really an icon” to “That’s heretical” There are a number of “icons” of the Holy Trinity that purport to show the Father as an old man with a white beard, usually with a triangle over his head. Generally they are held to be heretical. Here in America there is a Roman Catholic monk, a franciscan I think, who profanes icons and iconography by creating modernized pictures of such figures as Caesar Chavez and Gandhi. Probably he’s just one of your numerous monastic Post Vatican II heretics whom your bishops allow to run riot, but no good will come of such “iconography”. Here’s a link to a site which sells this garbage:

http://www.trinitystores.com/?detail=70&artist=1


105 posted on 01/01/2009 1:17:57 PM PST by Kolokotronis ( Christ is Born! Glorify Him!)
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To: GonzoII

Meant to ping you to #105


106 posted on 01/01/2009 1:18:39 PM PST by Kolokotronis ( Christ is Born! Glorify Him!)
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To: Kolokotronis; annalex
“People who know icons have a feel for what is strange and out of the loop, and what is canonical"

Thanks for the ping.

I think I got it now, the "canon" that is. If I was an Icon writer, and I decided I was going to write an Icon of the Annunciation, like the beautiful one on post #102, there would be a "set" way that I would need to do it. Certain elements would have to be in it, like body posture and a spindle or a handkerchief etc. and these elements would be able to be found in all authentic Icons of the Annunciation down through history, correct?

Pardon me if I don't reply to your response right away, it's late here, I'll get to it in the morning. ...Thanks again.

107 posted on 01/01/2009 2:34:37 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Kolokotronis; GonzoII
Yes, that is a necessary warning. There is much interest in Byzantine icongraphy in the West, and often someone would adopt the outward techniques, such as tempera on gesso, a certain style of gestures and garments and produce something that has a superficial resemblance to icons. So long as they are called what they are, religious art, inspirational art, or simply “art”, this is fine, but one should not confuse that with iconography. In Br. Robert Lentz's defense, I notice that he does not call his work "icons" and they clearly are not.

On the other hand, much in the early renaissance European art has a spiritual rather than purely aesthetic connection to Byzantine iconography, and the connection holds even when the technique is distinctly Western.

Here is a curious example of such interpenetration



Annunciation Triptych

Robert Campin

1425

This is a charming, masterfully done composition. I don't need to point out the many ways in which this is not an icon nor is intended to be: the artist's interest is in place the scene in contemporary to him setting and allow the viewer to link his own life as a tradesman to the blessed event. But Campin does not try to force any innovation: the central composition is quite canonical, and the intention is to encourage pious meditation, much like an icon would do.

Let us have a mental experiment. Replace the naturalistic oil-on-wood technique with tempera on gesso. Would that make it an icon? Still not: the image is still overloaded with unnecessary from the iconographic standpoint detail. Let us remove the distractions: the cityscape seen through st. Joseph's window, all the pots and tools and furniture. Let us retain the outline of the house, the central table with the vase, and give Joseph just one tool, which is in his hands. This begins to resemble an icon of the Annunciation with side scenes.

Let us pursue our goal, to make an icon out of this further. The donors on the left are a distraction altogether, no matter how you paint them. Perhaps, if we want to stick with the multipart composition, an image of Zacharia and expectant Elizabeth would be more apporpriate. A few things are still out of proportion to our spiritual eye. Why is the table so large? It is a naturalistic detail: people's kitchens have large tables. But its only purpose here is to contain the lily and the book -- which in themselves are important elements symbolically. So let us reduce the table to a little one-legged stand. This gives us room to make the main character figures larger relative to the less important Joseph and others. What we dioscovered is the principle of psychological perspective: things are shown large or small depending on their importance rather than actual size.

But where is the miracle? We see a young man (with inobtrusive wings) pleading with the maiden, who appears to ignore him while reading the book. We are still not showing what is the most important, the life of the spirit. Our painting remains grounded in the physical world. Now we see the reason for the nimbi and the heavenly vault: they explain what the physical objects cannot. So let us add them. Now we have very nearly a canonical icon (the redheadedness of Our Lady and her concentration on the reading remains a problem, though: an icon is supposed to retain the historically known to us facial features of major saints, and at the very least, their Jewish ethnicity).

This is what is ironic here: after all the compositional changes the tempera on gesso technique, -- the first step we took -- is really the least important. What is important it to see things not like the physical eye sees it but how the informed mind sees it. We removed the distractions and magnified the spiritual. But, of course, we have gone completely against the artist's original intent of placing the scene in a pedestrian contemporary setting.

108 posted on 01/01/2009 2:39:26 PM PST by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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