Married man to be ordained (RC) priest [Ecumenical]

You wrote:

“You wish to make distinctions between the Byzantines, the Melkites, the Eastern-Rite Catholics, that’s fine.”

No. First Byzantines were brought up. Then Melkites were brought up. Now Uniates. Make up your mind as to what you want to talk about. To say that they are all just Uniates to you is rediculous since they are all different. They are from different regions of the world, came back into commune with the Church at different times and in different ways. Even how they relate to the Orthodox is very different. To lump them together as if they are interchangeable - even though they’re not - makes no sense. If you picked the example and it didn’t work out for you, then deal with it.

“They are all just Uniates to us.”

They’re all Catholic Christians to us.

“Sorry that we don’t appreciate your distinctions.”

Your Churches do. If you think the Orthodox relate to the Melkites the same way they would to the Byzantines, then you are seriously mistaken.

“You said only one married Priest, and that was proved wrong.”

Nope. So far, not in the least. I also said I knew of only one. Name the other married Byzantines REGULARLY ordained in America. Go ahead. How many can you name? I know of only one and so far you have yet to disprove that. And even if you found two, or three or even a few more that wouldn’t disprove my point - it isn’t happening REGULARLY in America in the Byzantine Church. By the way, the priest at the Byzantine parish I attended many moon ago was married.

“How many married priests do I have to cite as being in Union with Rome to prove you wrong?”

Cite as many as you like. None of it will disprove what I said. If you don’t believe me then look at the seminarians at the Byzantine seminary over the last 30 years and tell me how many are REGULARLY ordained as married men in America. How many?

“Oh wait, only one more than one, as I have done.”

No. Again, you keep claiming you did something that you didn’t do.

“You drew that line, you live with it.”

I am living with it just fine, but it is apparently killing your phony argument. Again, show me that the Byzantines are REGULARLY ordaining married men in America. Show me or stop making silly claims.

“Shout that you are still right all you want; we’ll try not to laugh too hard at the egg on your face! LOL!”

Again, show me where I was wrong. To do that you must show that the Byzantine Church REGULARLY ordains married men in America. You can’t do that because it isn’t happening, has never been happening and might not happen for quite some time. Those are the facts and they are undeniable.

Melkites have their own Patriarch: http://www.melkite.org/PatriarchWritings.html

The Byzantine Catholics, as they are commonly referred to in the US, are Ukrainians, Ruthenians and Slovaks from Eastern Europe, while the Melkites are exclusively (originally of course) from the Middle East. They share essentially the same liturgy, but then again, so do most Eastern Christians. There are several churches which are lumped together as “Byzantine” because of their Greek basis and liturgical background: Melkite, Romanian, Ruthenian, Russian, Slovak, Ukrainian, and Italo-Greek (Old Albanian?).
Again, however, the Melkites have their own jurisdiction, and their own patriarch.

When you see a “Byzantine Catholic” parish it is not going to be a Melkite parish. That would be listed as a Melkite parish: http://www.melkite.org/

Example: Melkite: http://www.melkite.org/parishinfo.html

Byzantine: http://www.stannbyz.org/
and the same name, but different county in Pa. is a St. Anne’s that 25 years ago was called “Byzantine” but now is said to be “Ukrainian Catholic”: http://www.stanneukrainiancc.com/

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