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To: Philo-Junius
With respect, citing beach culture as a defence of mall culture is like saying that the Chicago Fire wasn’t much different than the San Francisco Earthquake.

My point is, a bikini isn't indecent and neither is a picture of a model in boy shorts and a bra. The ads at Victoria Secret stores don't even show the models in thongs, so they're even more covered than some girls at the beach who wear thong or g-string bikinis.

The point of the bikini is sexual transgression, not athletic performance

The point of the bikini is something women can wear to the beach while staying cool and minimizing tan lines. You're about 50 years late when it comes to complaining about the bikini.

Maybe my persepctive is different because I've spent time on European beaches where many women (including my wife) go topless, and people don't give it a second thought. American beaches are remarkably covered up, in comparison (with a few notable exceptions, like South Beach).

78 posted on 12/29/2008 9:30:45 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Citizen Blade

The bikini is not indecent because you say so?

There’s no statute of limitations on indecency, even if a majority of the populace has been so morally anesthetised it can’t remember when it was last capable of protesting against it.

What’s the point of avoiding tan lines, if you’re not just proposing to show as much flesh somewhere else?

Some women wear bikinis because they think they can “win” the game of female objectification. The fact that they have bartered their sexuality for other consideration does mean it represents a healthy self-concept or a social good.

Once upon a time, referring to the sexual mores of the French in a positive way was understood to be a concession of the moral argument in favour of simple hedonism.


83 posted on 12/29/2008 9:41:17 AM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Citizen Blade

>>Maybe my persepctive is different because I’ve spent time on European beaches where many women (including my wife) go topless, and people don’t give it a second thought. American beaches are remarkably covered up, in comparison (with a few notable exceptions, like South Beach). <<

I’ll skip taking Europe as an example. Thanks.


88 posted on 12/29/2008 9:48:43 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: Citizen Blade

The junior anti-sex league is on patrol here.


89 posted on 12/29/2008 9:50:06 AM PST by John Will
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