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This is from another thread Kev. Instead of AM you could easily slip in AK

To: SeekAndFind

B-CHAN: Thousands of years of Western civilization preferring male-female bonding leading to marriage and family is a good thing, and Anna feels that it’s a bad thing. Is that totally fair? Or am I putting words in your mouth?

AM: I don’t think it’s necessarily preferable. I think that people should be able to make their own choices.

B-CHAN: Why?

AM: Because it’s wrong to coerce anyone into behaving a certain way.

B-CHAN: Wrong? As in morally wrong?

AM: Yes.

B-CHAN: Sez who?

AM: Excuse me?

B-CHAN: You said that it’s wrong to coerce someone into behaving a certain way. Sez who? Who says it’s wrong to coerce people?

AM: Well, it’s against freedom.

B-CHAN: So what?

AM: Well, freedom is good, so anything that restricts it is evil.

B-CHAN: Who says freedom is good?

AM: Human nature. People naturally want to be free.

B-CHAN: But I thought that human nature didn’t exist. Didn’t you just say that human nature was, in effect, socially determined?

AM: Well, the desire for freedom isn’t. It’s natural.

B-CHAN: Again, says who?

AM: Says reality, I suppose.

B-CHAN: So freedom is the ultimate value? The standard of goodness?

AM: Yes.

B-CHAN: Sez who?

AM: Look, this is —

B-CHAN: Skip it. Are you saying that people should be totally free to do whatever they want?

AM: As long as they’re not hurting anyone else, or the Earth, yes.

B-CHAN: So it’s wrong to hurt other people? Or the Earth?

AM: Yes.

B-CHAN: Sez who?

AM: This interview is over.

22 posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 6:18:36 PM by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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Look, we're both here because in some sense of the word, we're both conservatives. I don't need to convince others that my beliefs are the only right ones to further my ego. I have my beliefs and you have your's. The difference is I don't try and force my beliefs on others.

Do you want to know why I'm so against organized religion? Because it produces mindless sheep. Most people sleepwalk through life. We think we're enlightened, we're not.

"History does not record anywhere a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help."
-Robert A. Heinlein