A Porn-Tastic Christmas

CMR ^ | matthew archbold

[little jeremiah]

It’s a difficult issue just the way “gay rights” are a difficult issue. They (all) claim they want tolerance, they demonize the side who want traditional morality to be the cultural default, and they push and push and push to have the norm become more and more degraded, all the while claiming victim status, and that anyone opposed to surrendering to their agenda is Taliban-like.

They do not want to be tolerated, NOR do they want to tolerate us. They want total domination of the culture. THAT’S why it’s an issue.

I am not saying that every poster here, for instance, has that extreme view. But the movers and shakers have that mindset, in spades.

[Berlin_Freeper]

There is no more overriding sense of decency. Selfishness is what most people are about these days, and sex sells. One can never insulate their children enough to keep them from being aware of all the sleaze.

The only solution is to be the example of rising above it all. Children will see that and learn , and later in life appreciate real happiness. Even though they will make mistakes, they will rise above it all and will most likely raise their own happy family.

[mkjessup]

From your rant, my assumption is apparently dead on target.

Here's your clue: if I was ranting, you would know it. Your dismissal of my comments reveals your own closed mind. You have proclaimed that sleaze and smut are 'unavoidable' and you don't want to hear anything that conflicts with that view.

You are clearly beyond the ability to grasp the larger point, so wrapped up in your anybody/anytime/anywhere access to base material that has been proven detrimental for mind, body and soul.

Well why don't you slam a few neurons together and explain in detail just what your 'larger point' is supposed to be then?

You must not have a very pragmatic view of reality if you think parents can filter the smut that is in the oxygen we breathe nowadays. “LAZY” you say. You’ve got some ungodly nerve.

Yes I say LAZY because if you (or anyone) won't even make the effort, and choose instead to take refuge in the lame excuse of "well, it's everywhere and we can't do anything about it", that is the height of laziness, and it is amoral because you are surrendering without even trying to resist that which seeks to corrupt the human soul.

It is unavoidable.

So your solution is to just give up? Yep, that's lazy. And cowardly.

Ask yourself how all this pornographic taint has helped society? Who has it benefitted except horney, weak types who want their ‘drug’ and trade away anything of substance, respect and wisdom to get it?

It hasn't. It seems for some reason that you've got the idea that I am somehow 'pro' porno, when nothing could be further from the truth. I read some of your comments which sound like you're condemning the smut infested society we live in, and then you just wilt with a sigh, saying "it's unavoidable, can't do anything about it", what side of this issue are you on anyway?

Porn addicts, the most revolting of the species, reverse their ability to develop meaningful human relationships. It’s their shallow, crack cocaine.

You're preaching to the choir.

It’s broken up relationships, ruined kids, increased teen misery....early sex/stds, pregnancy, abortion, suicide—it’s increased sex crimes ( remember how even Ted Bundy —as a parting comment said “you really ought to do something about the pornography, it’s dangerous” ) and it has generally merchandised humans as disposable ‘outlet’ units.

I'm agreeing with you 100 percent, in case you still don't "get it".

Maybe you can get a clue dude.

Say that in the mirror, I think we're on the same page 'dude', except that unlike you, I'm not willing to just surrender and resign myself to the prospect of kids being subjected to that 'unavoidable' sleaze you don't sound like you have the stomach for to fight.

So which is it?

[metmom]

In the mall? Which mall has a church or cathedral?

Why can’t the people who want to see the porn go off in their little corners and do it behind closed doors, like the liberals want Christians to do with religion?

[metmom]

It’s like they just can’t wait to turn our kids into tramps.

Like Libby Lu's where they try to turn little girls into prostitots.

[metmom]

I think there are far more pressing issues than this.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong.

The sexualization of children is going to result in the continuation of the breakdown of our culture.

Children do NOT need to be exposed to that kind of adult behavior. And then people wonder why young adults look at each other as not much more than slabs of meat, someone they can have sex with for one night and not even know their name.

[trisham]

It’s a difficult issue just the way “gay rights” are a difficult issue. They (all) claim they want tolerance, they demonize the side who want traditional morality to be the cultural default, and they push and push and push to have the norm become more and more degraded, all the while claiming victim status, and that anyone opposed to surrendering to their agenda is Taliban-like.

They do not want to be tolerated, NOR do they want to tolerate us. They want total domination of the culture. THAT’S why it’s an issue.

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I think you're really on to something here. After thinking about the comparison, it seems apt. Both groups, the pro-pornography and homosexuals demand society accept their behaviour without restraints. They use some of the same tactics in attempting to repudiate their opponents concerns, and both display immature attitudes.

Both are consumed with the self, and reject God.

[KevinDavis]

Kinda like how Elvis cause the collapse of Western Civilization cause he moved his hips..

[marshmallow]

No. What's lunacy is the people who are not comfortable with their own skin and so project these views on other people. Simple solution. Don't want your kids exposed to it, go to a different mall, take a different route. Plus...they're mannequins, or static ads.

Right, we must retreat.

Don't like what Obama or Barney Frank are doing in Washington? Find another country, right? Don't like your neighbor walking around naked? Sell your house and move to another neighborhood, right? Don't like the fact that homosexuals can marry in your state? Move to a different state.

Question: what happens when there are no other malls to which to go? What happens when there are no other countries to which to flee? What happens when there are no other neighborhoods and no other states? What happens when the moral decay is universal? What happens when the barbarians have taken over everything?

What do we do then? Curl up under a rock?

Yours is precisely the type of response which those who push the envelope of moral turpitude count on. That those who still have principles will not stand and fight but will instead fall back and retreat. Obviously, as this process is repeated, those who are forced to "look for another mall" become hemmed into progressively smaller enclaves as the filth expands.

Sorry, we don't want to have to find a "different mall", OK? We want to go to this one. And if it's not the way we like it, we'll try and do something about it. As is our right.

The libertines may win for a while but it will be after a long and bitter fight. And in the end, the economic bankruptcy in this country which mirrors its moral bankruptcy, will close down these trashy malls.

[netmilsmom]

>>Little kids are self-centred barbarians. It takes years of education to make them ready for life in society. <<

Noooooo, children are our offspring, the God given gift of our future. You see them as a burden, so shown by your self-centered interest in your child but no other. You may not want to see it, but they ARE part of society.

Spend a few more years in the USA before you wave your hand and declare “self-centered little brats” are taking over our country. Meet some nice conservative parents outside of DC.

Europeans and liberals see children as a burden. Turn them over to the state and let me have my ski vacations and spa time. We are different. We love our children enough to keep them children, keep them with us and teach them to be fine adults.

I’m not impressed with the European way.

[Lorianne]

I agree. But if you don’t want your children corrupted you have to avoid such things as pop culture. The mall is the epitomy of pop culture.

[trisham]

I’m not impressed with the European way.

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Me, either.

[dascallie]

Which is it?

Can you not understand what you propose is completely unrealistic?

Parents are supposed to cherry-pick an increasingly narrow scope of life to try and raise their kids sans the perverse in their face?

How do you recommend these “lazy” parents negotiate this increasingly cluttered minefield?

And whatever happened to the rights of families to enjoy a reasonable, no sexual explicitness, no sleaze along the mainstream of life?

This is exactly what second hand smoke rights protection is about.

Do want you damn well please—but do it somewhere where it does not pollute my world, my lungs, my health and my brain.

I’m actually in favor of red light districts. That includes red light cyber districts like dot.porn extensions—with firm restrictions for use and trafficking of content.

That means OFF THE MAINSTREAM.

[trisham]

Wow. Great post!

[mkjessup]

Sorry, we don't want to have to find a "different mall", OK? We want to go to this one. And if it's not the way we like it, we'll try and do something about it. As is our right.

And meanwhile, as you're "trying to do something about it", you'll be exposing your kids to the filth that we all deplore.

I don't find that sort of 'collateral damage' acceptable.

[trisham]

I'm not sure why you're arguing with the very people with whom you have claimed to agree. Why not confront those with whom you claim to have a disagreement?

[netmilsmom]

>>Me, either. <<

They think we should be though!

[trisham]

Europe is in decline, so lets emulate it! It's really unbelievable.

[AntiKev]

I don’t suggest you retreat. I’m not one to retreat (as evidenced by my continued presence in this thread). Stand up for what you believe in, just don’t expect everyone else to roll over when you come in swinging your sword of moral superiority. More often than not, the sword of moral superiority meets the shield of logical solutions to problems.

[mkjessup]

I'm not sure why you're arguing with the very people with whom you have claimed to agree. Why not confront those with whom you claim to have a disagreement?

By all means. You identify the targets, I'll line 'em up in the cross hairs.

Have at it.